# Planned Parenthood sues anti-abortion group behind secret videos

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**Created:** [January 14, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-sues-anti-abortion-group-behind-secret-videos/743167 "2016-01-14T21:20:11Z")\
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**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-sues-anti-abortion-group-behind-secret-videos/743167/101 "2017-01-13T05:31:49Z")

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[The lawsuit filed by StemExpress has been dropped](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443800/stemexpress-cmp-suit-dropped). So those who want Daleiden punished by the government are now 0 for 2. The lawsuit filed by Planned Parenthood is ongoing.

Meanwhile, Fusion GPS, the organization whose research was widely cited as evidence that the videos had been edited deceptively, is back in the news. [It appears they were involved with the utterly phony dossier on Donald Trump that Buzzfeed published](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html?_r=0).

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-sues-anti-abortion-group-behind-secret-videos/743167/102 "2017-01-13T05:40:41Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> [The lawsuit filed by StemExpress has been dropped](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443800/stemexpress-cmp-suit-dropped). So those who want Daleiden punished by the government are now 0 for 2. The lawsuit filed by Planned Parenthood is ongoing.
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> Meanwhile, Fusion GPS, the organization whose research was widely cited as evidence that the videos had been edited deceptively, is back in the news. [It appears they were involved with the utterly phony dossier on Donald Trump that Buzzfeed published](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html?_r=0).

And you’re prepared to cite evidence the dossier is phony, right?

As for the lawsuit.

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> Chuck LiMandri of the Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund, one of the attorneys representing CMP in this case, tells National Review that StemExpress likely dropped its case for fear that it would lose and then owe Daleiden legal fees.

So the defendant is speculating as to why the suit was dropped and you take it as gospel.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-sues-anti-abortion-group-behind-secret-videos/743167/103 "2017-01-13T18:50:20Z")

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> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> Meanwhile, Fusion GPS, the organization whose research was widely cited as evidence that the videos had been edited deceptively, is back in the news. [It appears they were involved with the utterly phony dossier on Donald Trump that Buzzfeed published](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html?_r=0).

So does this mean that all of the clear evidence they presented that the video was edited deceptively no longer exists?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-sues-anti-abortion-group-behind-secret-videos/743167/104 "2017-01-13T20:26:57Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> So does this mean that all of the clear evidence they presented that the video was edited deceptively no longer exists?

It means they’ve been declared persona non grata by the Supreme Trumpine Soviet and therefore have been erased.

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**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/planned-parenthood-sues-anti-abortion-group-behind-secret-videos/743167/105 "2022-10-23T13:26:57Z")

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**Update**

[https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/abortion-foes-largely-lose-24-mln-appeal-over-planned-parenthood-videos-2022-10-21/](https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/abortion-foes-largely-lose-24-mln-appeal-over-planned-parenthood-videos-2022-10-21/)

> Circuit Judge Ronald Gould wrote that the right to free speech cannot shield illegal conduct, such as forging signatures or breaking contracts. He said the decision did not impose any restrictions on journalistic speech but simply reaffirmed “the established principle that the pursuit of journalism does not give a license to break laws of general applicability.”  
> The panel did overturn one part of the jury’s verdict, which found that the defendants violated the Federal Wiretap Act by secretly recording their conversations with Planned Parenthood employees, writing that the law generally allows recording by a party to a conversation.

In case that’s not obvious, this is re: the civil suit, not the criminal charges:

> [@ITR\_champion](#):
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> The lawsuit filed by Planned Parenthood is ongoing.

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