Plausibility of Star Trek Tech.

Star Trek technologies:
[ul][li]Cloaking device[/ul][/li]Although creating some kind of quasi-holographic projection that makes an object blend into its backdrop at a significant difference is plausible, the sort of perfect invisibility portrayed in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home is completely impossible, especially since it is clear that one can see outside the field from within even though light has to be absorbed or wrapped around to make it invisible.

More critically, any system producing power or doing work is going to create waste heat which will be detectible (as referenced in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country to dicover the cloaked Bird-of-Prey and then promptly forgotten). A spaceship producing massive amounts of power and zipping through space will have a large infrared signature as well as neutrino radiation produced by nuclear or antimatter reactors which could not be shielded by any plausible material.

Feasibility: IMPOSSIBLE

[ul][li]Holodeck[/ul][/li]As a projected simulated reality with a high degree of vermissilitude to visual, auditory, and perhaps olfactory senses, perhaps. Producing apparently solid materials through projected force fields and replicated materials? That’s basically magic although some kind of direct interface to the somatosensory cortex might simulate textile sensations, which is well beyond the current state of the art but potentially within the means of technology a couple of centuries ahead.

Feasibility: IMPLAUSIBLE

[ul][li]Replicator[/ul][/li]Although we can print materials from polymers and metals, a universal assembler that can produce any arbitrary combination of chemical substances from “basic matter” with essentially perfect fidelity? No. However, we will likely develop the means using enzymes and proteases to make and modify many complex organic and organometallic substances and perhaps even assemble finished products (or at least whole components of an assembly) the way a mollusc builds a shell or coral constructs a reef.

Feasibility: PLAUSIBLE WITH SIGNIFICANT LIMITATIONS

[ul][li]Tractor beam[/ul][/li]The mechanism of the tractor beam is never really explained but it appears to be some kind of an polarized attractive gravity generator with a narrow beam collumation and some kind of ability to focus at a specific distance, which would require some kind of controlled exotic matter of a type that modern physics can’t even readily describe. It does shoot some kind of visual radiation at the object being tractored so perhaps it is actually creating a mechanical or electrochemical bond with the object, but given that it has been projected through solid matter that doesn’t really make sense. It also exerts a force on the object being tractored that does not react upon the ship issuing the beam. So it seems to be completely counterphysical to everything we know about the universe.

Feasibility: IMPOSSIBLE

[ul][li]Transporter[/ul][/li]There are so many things about the transporter that are beyond any feasibility that it could actually fill up a small book, but to start with, disintegrating a person and producing a replica at “the other end” is not transportation but killing. Even if the person at the other end wakes up with the same memories and a continuity of consciousness, they are still not the same person, and as transporter accidents i the show have demonstrated it is possible to produce a second person while the first remains intact. So even if this technology were workable, it is a cloning device, not a literal transporter.

The computational complexity of breaking down something as complex as a human body and reproducing it, taking apart a body atom by atom without it at some point collapsing in a pool of protoplasm, projecting a partical stream at an arbitrary point hundreds or thousands of kilometers away and reassembling it with essentially perfect replication, and all of the thermodynamic and conservation of momemtum problems associated with transporting from an orbiting vessel to a lower energy state planetary surface are never explained except with pure technobabble, and are rarely even addressed aside from the occassional sane character who rightfully fears being transported.

Feasibility: IMPOSSIBLE

[ul][li]Universal translator[/ul][/li]The Universal Translator may seem at first to be viable because of the ability of computer translation systems today, although it should be noted that those translation systems work okay at the level of a word or simple statement but largely fail when it comes to communicating colloqualisms or idiom, and running something like a letter or story through one results in almost complete gibberish. Such system will improve, of course, at least between widely used human languages but even then can only convey basic directions and information, not the cultural context necessary to communicate abstractions.

And this is within human languages which have a grammar that maps to the way human brains interpret speech and action. Communication between humans and truly alien species will involve not only large gulfs of context but essential differences in the way they perceive the world and experience themselves. It’s not a gurantee that basic elements of human perception and cognitive modelling of the world, such as discrete shapes and counting numbers, will be shared by an alien species which may see the world in terms of statistical distributions and use compound factals to quantify their experience. There is almost certainly not going to be a one-to-one correspondance between human and alien vocabulary even if they use auditory speech and a grammar structured in the equivalent of subject-predicate sentence units. And being able to make these translations upon first contact without a basis for creating any kind of dictionary makes about as much sense as the Babel Fish from The Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy, which Adams create to poke fun at that very trope.

Feasibility: IMPROBABLE to IMPOSSIBLE

The list didn’t include the warp drive or “impulse drive” (which would appear to be an inertia-less drive, or inertial dampers, which work until you need the crew to bounce around the bridge), or artificial gravity, or force fields, or “phasers”, or “subspace communicators”, or any of a number of other technologies which the shows and movies employ to allow characters to zip from star to star and zap each other with with abandon in their spandex onsies. But it should be noted that essentially all of the technologies exist not out of any plausibility but employed out of the narrative necessity in allowing characters to have some vital role in exploration (hence, why there is very little evident automation or use of robots even though the level of technology would seem to allow for virtually all hazardous missions to be undertaken remotely while the crew remains in safety). The transporter, for instance, was conceived because of budgetary limitations with building a shuttle model for the show until later in production. Depsite the power that technology has to be an essential deus ex machina for many of the problems the crew faces and should be able to essentially reconstruct anyone regardless of amount of damage, making the characters practically immortal, it is used in a banal manner and requires more twisted logic and technobabble to come up with reasons why it cannot solve the problem of the week.

A show about realistic space exploration, even assuming advanced technologies like essentially unlimited fusion power, projected energy weapons that don’t melt in your hand from the enormous waste heat they would produce, and some kind of superluminal drive or wormhole transportation, would still consist of long periods of boredom, unseen but insidious hazards in the form of radiation or environmental dysregulation, and a lot of telling robots and machine intelligence systems to take care of the dangerous work. And while the Star Trek computer systems seem essentially capable of almost complete autonomy (and the character of Data is evidentially sapient, but for some reason despite the perfect scanning and reproduction ability of the transporter, they have elected not to even attempt to create more of the same type of machine. Even The Expanse, which attempts to be more plausible with respect to gravity, thermodynamics, weapons, et cetera, still has to stretch plausibility with their super-efficient “Epstein Drive” and some elements of outer system colonization.

Star Trek was always an adventure show with some allegorical elements (at least in the original series; that was largely abandoned in The Next Generation and later shows for more straightforward direct action, political machinations, and the occasional mystery plot). That being said, the finale episode of TNG, “All Good Things…” is legitimately one of the most self-consistent time travel stories ever told in the television medium, and the essential message of optimism of the original series and the early TNG show were a contract to the largely military-action dominated cinematic and television “science fiction” which is mostly just military guys or plucky rogues running around with guns blowing shit up and stealing things, with some hand-to-hand martial arts and bladecraft thrown in for variation, often by implausibly attractive people in uncomfortably tight leather suits.

Shows like Dark Matter are a guitly pleasure (sometimes for just how cringeworthy the dialogue is, and how good the actors can actually be on the rare occasion they aren’t just shooting and kicking or having awkward intracrew rivalries and conspiracies) but they aren’t science ficiton in the sense of exploring the societal and psychological impacts of advances in technology or changes in essential perception on hairless apes who are still having trouble dealing with groups of more than four and handling tools that require more than two gripping appendages.

The less said about the J.J. Abrams “kind of a reboot, but not really, because we want to change things while not abandoning the existing base even though we have trashed continuinity in every essential way” films, Enterprise, and Star Trek: Discovery, the better. Even Voyager, which maintains essentially continuity with the preceeding shows, essentially made up whatever technomagic it needed for the plot of the week and then disregarded it for future use. The physics of all of them are fundamentally nonsense even by the standard of Hollywood technobabble.

Stranger

There was one episode on TNG where Wesley figured out the difference between the fake Data and the real Data because one was incapable of using contractions so always said “do not” instead of “don’t”.

As I recall, that epidode ended with Data saying “I’m fine.”

That’s a clever idea in theory but not workable in practice. A human body (or that of any living organism) is a highly complex interconnected system which is in a state of constant flux right down to the molecular level. One type of skin cell is not like another; there are four different basic classes of skin cells (kerintocytes, melanocytes, Langerhans cells, and Merkel cells, but within those classes there are hundreds of distinctions and different states they can be in depending on where they are located, what environments they have been exposed to, and the age-state of the cell, all of which are crucial to reproducing a body. And the internal state of the cell—in particular, the mitochondrial and other organelle states—have to be in alignment with other cells and systems or mass dysfunctions occur resulting in inflammation, adverse immune response, and potentially premature cell death.

This is notwithstanding all of the previously mentioned problems with the basic physics of the transporter, which was never thought out in any conceptual way when it was introduced as a way to get around budgetary limitations of the show.

I’m not sure what a “statis field” is, but if it is like those of Niven’s “Known Space” universe where time passes at a different rate and the boundary of the field forms a perfectly rigid object, there are basic problems with both quantum mechanics and relativity. A perfectly rigid field must move instantaneously across its entire extent, which violates causality, and the change in energy state between regular rate of time versus the internal slower rate would presumably be akin to that seen outside and inside the event horizon of a black hole. Aside from wormholes and closed timelike curves around large rotating masses you can’t have actual time travel or time manipulation without some serious retooling of physics as we know it, and even those phenomena likely have limitations preventing them from being used to create a path to travel backwards within your own causal history.

Stranger

The real-life version of “cloaking” would be certain stealth technology, including engineering advanced materials to absorb particular frequencies of radiation or manipulating its path to bend around an object. But it does not make stealth aircraft or ships “invisible”.

Force fields/tractor beams remind me of laser cooling, magneto-optical traps and optical tweezers.

Phasers = lasers

People complaining about incompatibility of anything with physics are missing that these fictional technologies make perfect sense in the context of comic-book physics :slight_smile:

Not to mention the problems that crop up when the transporter mangles rybo-viroxic-nucleic sequences.

Alcubierre would require negative matter to work. Negative matter hypothetical substance which has not been observed that generates negative gravity.

Unless major portions of some of the best tested theories in physics are overturned the Alcubierre drive and all FTL is nothing more than myth. While testing and attempting to invalidate existing theories in physics should always be encouraged you absolutely should not believe any of these claims.

Right now there is *zero evidence *for us to believe that FTL travel will ever be possible and massive amounts of data and experimental evidence to suggest it never will be. Even if causality can be violated there are serious issues that would make it problematic for actual use as travel.

Unfortunately the overloaded meaning of “theory” makes this difficult for a typical reader to decipher.

Well, if we’re talking comic book physics, then the technologies of Star Trek is perfectly plausible, especially in the “Warner Brothers Animated Universe”. They’re only barely less plausible than a guy with a microfusion reactor in his chest and a flying suit with particle projector weapons and a hypersophisticated machine intelligence, an alien often confused as a Norse god, or a giant green rage monster with superhealing factor, not to mention all of the arthropod-related superheroes.

“You mean there’s an Ant-Man and a Spider-Man?”

Stranger

Larry Niven, of Ringworld fame, details stasis fields, wherein nothing, not even time gets in or out.

In his universe, the first thing is a civilization has to routinely be able to detect neutrinos, not an easy feat with contemporary technologies. Anyway, then the civilization has to notice the peculiar “shadow” of neutrinos. Then you have to find what’s causing the shadow, and realize its a perfect mirror, because of course it would be. Then you realize you couldn’t have one inside the other, so you generate one surrounding it, as a way of opening it. Then you open it and find a very technologically advanced being inside.

Then the fun begins.

The Children of Tama had no term for “ninjas.”

The ship mounted and hand-held versions have nothing in common with lasers. Phasers can be seen from the side, without dust. Phasers travel at a speed that the human eye can detect. They have as much in common with lasers as light sabers have in common with lasers – “control crystals” in light-saber design notwithstanding, they don’t behave like light.

I assumed that they were called phasers because they were charged particles in a beam that were coherent in wavelength like a laser. But I don’t know if that makes them more energetic.

We used to make fun of photon torpedoes. Hah. Torpedoes made of light, heh, funny. But then, the mutual annihilation of some matter and antimatter will make light. And if you can get it going 0.9 c before you set it off, yeah, you’ll do some damage.

So, every culture develops its own version of the UT. When two strangers meet, their UTs signal each other and exchange language information.

or

The first aliens that Humans ever met were Vulcans. They learned each others language slowly. The next race they met were Tellarites. But Tellarites had already met Vulcans and knew the language. Humans could thus speak to Tellarites using Vulcan as a lingua franca. Next they met the Klingons, who already knew Tellarite. And so on. Every time they meet a new race they communicate through a third language they both know.

Yeah, I deliberately over simplified it. But still, how many atoms are in a skin cell, or a muscle cell or a red blood cell? Instead of needing to track all the atoms, we track cell type, length and width (muscle cells), position, etc. It still makes a considerable savings.

Whatever specific cell type we pick there are billions of them, each with quadrillions of atoms.

Dennis

They *wanted *Khan to hear their communication and get false information.

As for the Universal Translator goes, I’m at a loss at how it works in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode “Little Green Men”. In that episode, Nog, Rom, and Quark are on a trip to Earth and ended going back to year 1947, crashing their small ship in Roswell, New Mexico.(I know, Ha Ha Ha.) Anyway they are captured by the US military and their Universal Translators are malfunctioning. The soldiers watching over them see them speaking to each other and they are depicted speaking gibberish to each other. Rom manages to fix the Universal Translators(which are depicted being in their ears) and Quark decides to speak up. He is then depicted as speaking English to the soldiers. Huh? Does the Universal Translator create some sort of Holographic overlay that makes it look like Quark speaks English? Does Quark actually speak English? The whole scene is just a total headbanger and I am baffled about how to reconcile it with an actual explanation about how Universal Translators work.

I’ve read that the single most unrealistic tech in Star Trek is videoconferencing that is so reliable that if it goes down you can just assume that the other ship blew up, instead Skype just crapping out.

Cells, even those of the same type, are not Legos that have a singular set of characteristics and one static state, particularly those in the brain where essential functions and higher cognition (including the sapience and “sense of self”) are located. You can no more recreate a person simply by arranging random cells of a type in an array of positions than you could reconstruct Stonehenge simply by taking a bunch of standing stones of the approximate dimensions of the original and arranging them in the same pattern at an arbitrary orientation and latitude.

Stranger

Actually the Vulcans had been observing Earth for at least a century prior to First Contact. They’d already learned English by the time T’Pol’s second foremother visited in the late 1950s.

This sounds like it would further reinforce the uselessness of Counselor Troi. But yes, the huge pitfall about this is that it relies on that the way every species observes reality ***and processes it into perception and thought ***is standard enough that the associated brainwave activity is mutually mappable from mind to mind.

In the very first appearance of the cloak in *Balance of Terror *it is alluded to that the cloak does limit and tax the capabilities of the vessel using it. But very quickly it just became an old-school invisibility mantle you can just turn on and off.

Troi is useless from Roddenberry’s viewpoint that humans in the 24th century are mature enough to settle their differences on their own, thereby eliminating conflict among the crew (as if there’s any evidence of this ever happening in the past), but somehow they still need counselors (“social engineers”) to grease the gears of human interaction. The ultimate in nanny states.

As for the UT, the handheld version used by Kirk in “Metamorphosis” provided intelligible speech to the user. Later, and in virtually all iterations of the series, it was heavily implied translations were given directly to the user’s mind, through either electromagnetic waves (reverse mindreading) or some form of neural implant. Implants are unlikely, as they would affect only the holder of the device, and we were clearly shown that aliens receive simultaneous translations from English into their own languages as well.

In some cases, the UT was unnecessary, since we were told that certain species (Romulans, Klingons) had indeed bothered to learn at least some rudimentary English, just as Russians often did during the Cold War, while others had (according to Blish’s adaptations) acquired “acceptable Basic” (one of Churchill’s pet projects for spreading the influence of the English-speaking world after WWII) through contact with humans.