# Playboy!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 18, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442 "2016-02-18T14:46:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/1 "2016-02-18T14:46:12Z")

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Playboy is going PG13, so that’s the end of naked girls. And an era.

[Mod comment: NSFW links in spoiler.}

[Here are all the centerfolds](http://imgur.com/a/Uxug4) (those that were 15-16-17 not included). Funny to see the change over time.

Perhaps [Miss November 1995, Holly Witt](http://i.imgur.com/tpDSXm0.jpg) and [Miss December 1995, Samatha Torres](http://i.imgur.com/QRFAWwS.jpg) are the prettiest. Currently I’m trying to determine the most impressive bush.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/2 "2016-02-18T14:52:53Z")

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UMMMM…  
NSFW people.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/3 "2016-02-18T14:55:13Z")

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I’ll have it be known that I’m a private business owner, and at my work Playboy centerfolds are SFW.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/4 "2016-02-18T15:10:30Z")

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> [@Rune](#):
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> I’ll have it be known that I’m a private business owner, and at my work Playboy centerfolds are SFW.

And yet, the [Registration Agreement](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=650726) of this message board makes it clear that your definition does not fit ours:

> [@SDMB Registration Agreement](#):
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> Do not post links to pornography - we will be the judge of what constitutes pornography. Links to nudity or other potentially shocking or offensive material are permissible only in the context of a mature discussion - gratuitous posting of such links is grounds for revocation of your posting privileges. **When posting a link to potentially shocking or offensive material, observe the “two click” rule - don’t link directly to the item, but rather to an intermediate page that in turns links to the item.**

Emphasis added.

You’ve been here plenty long enough to know better.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/5 "2016-02-18T15:12:23Z")

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I’m so sorry to hear the magazine will soon fold, ironically after all those years I spent unfolding it.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/6 "2016-02-18T15:24:14Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I’m so sorry to hear the magazine will soon fold, ironically after all those years I spent unfolding it.

Sure, but think of all the navels that will be spared stapling.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/7 "2016-02-18T15:27:33Z")

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This thread also seems better suited to Cafe Society. Off it goes.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/8 "2016-02-18T15:32:48Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> I’m so sorry to hear the magazine will soon fold, ironically after all those years I spent unfolding it.

IS it going to fold? Can you link to a cite?

I haven’t heard this. All I know is that they’re losing the nudes, I suspect in an effort to get their magazine stocked in more places and purchased for institutions that traditionally haven’t (like most libraries).

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/9 "2016-02-18T15:59:35Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> IS it going to fold? Can you link to a cite?
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> I haven’t heard this. All I know is that they’re losing the nudes, I suspect in an effort to get their magazine stocked in more places and purchased for institutions that traditionally haven’t (like most libraries).

There is no declaration that they will soon fold. The writing is on the wall, and the pictures aren’t on the wall anymore, so things may not go well for them. Also, what chance does any print magazine have of surviving anyway?

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/10 "2016-02-18T16:10:02Z")

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Playboy has a current circulation of 800,000. That’s remarkable for a magazine that’s been a joke for decades. No question there’s an audience for it. Taking the nudes out means they can get into Wal-Mart and 7-11 and those tens of thousands of outlets that banned them. My bet is that circulation is over 1,000,000 by this time next year.

Maybe ten years from now there won’t be a magazine. Short term, Playboy is a business and this is good business news.

Rune, if you like 90s Playmates, I suspect you’re much younger than I am. 🙂

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/11 "2016-02-18T16:15:32Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Playboy has a current circulation of 800,000. That’s remarkable for a magazine that’s been a joke for decades. No question there’s an audience for it. Taking the nudes out means they can get into Wal-Mart and 7-11 and those tens of thousands of outlets that banned them. My bet is that circulation is over 1,000,000 by this time next year.

That’s an interesting take on the subject. It seems to assume there are a lot of people that don’t buy the magazine only to look at the naked ladies, and a large number of people who would buy it if only there weren’t pictures of naked ladies in it. Perhaps it will turn out that way, I think within a year they’ll lose more readers than they gain, but occasionally it is possible to underestimate the tastes of the American public.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/12 "2016-02-18T16:15:59Z")

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I thought the move to non-nude was more for the internet side of things e.g. so their links aren’t banned on so many websites.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/13 "2016-02-18T16:24:18Z")

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What’s next? Dogs and Cats living together in Peace and Harmony?

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/14 "2016-02-18T16:46:50Z")

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Amazing that the centerfolds from 60 years ago were a thousand times sexier than those of today. No boob jobs, no piercings, no tattoos, no shaved bushes (insofar as you can tell), no collagen, no slimming diets, no photoshopping…

(I suspect their IQs were appreciably higher, too.)

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/15 "2016-02-18T16:52:28Z")

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When I get filthy rich, I’m going to clone these to be my private “nurses.”

Miss October 1954, Madeline Castle.

[http://i.imgur.com/BN2HlrR.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/BN2HlrR.jpg)

Miss February 1960, Susie Scott.

[http://i.imgur.com/r0n55NO.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/r0n55NO.jpg)

Miss January 1963, Judi Monterey.

[http://i.imgur.com/AU2Y53t.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/AU2Y53t.jpg)

Miss July 1966, Tish Howard.

[http://i.imgur.com/3CPQuCj.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/3CPQuCj.jpg)

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/16 "2016-02-18T16:54:05Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Also, what chance does any print magazine have of surviving anyway?

I suspect that was part of their motivation for this change. All major app stores forbid apps with adult content, so it’s difficult to distribute adult magazines electronically.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/17 "2016-02-18T16:54:19Z")

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I got the new issue yesterday. I haven’t really looked at it yet but, from just flipping through, it looks like they’ve changed quite a bit. It’s also larger and the paper is different.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/18 "2016-02-18T17:15:17Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> (I suspect their IQs were appreciably higher, too.)

Debatable, but Miss July 1956, Alice Denham, who was gorgeous and had a wonderful figure, was a writer who had Playboy reprint a story she published as part of the deal for Playmate. She worked as a nude model to subsidize her attempts at writing in the 50s. She eventually published a few novels and even became one of the founders of NOW.

Her memoir, [Sleeping with Bad Boys: A Juicy Tell-All of Literary New York in the the 1950s and 1960s](http://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Bad-Boys-Tell-All-Literary/dp/1493695800/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1455815724&sr=1-1&keywords=alice+denham) is both fun and sad in the depiction of women as appendages to the male ego in that era.

Playboy, BTW, rejected all other stories by her because they refused to have female by-lines in they weren’t tied to the centerfold. “U. K.” (Ursula) Le Guin finally punctured that, but true female bylines waited until the 1970s.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/19 "2016-02-18T17:23:01Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Playboy has a current circulation of 800,000. That’s remarkable for a magazine that’s been a joke for decades. No question there’s an audience for it. Taking the nudes out means they can get into Wal-Mart and 7-11 and those tens of thousands of outlets that banned them. My bet is that circulation is over 1,000,000 by this time next year.
> 
> Maybe ten years from now there won’t be a magazine. Short term, Playboy is a business and this is good business news.
> 
> Rune, if you like 90s Playmates, I suspect you’re much younger than I am. 🙂

I’ve never seen Playboy banned from 7-11. Usually it’s kept behind the counter and the front of the rack hides the cover below the title.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/playboy/746442/20 "2016-02-18T17:28:15Z")

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Apparently, Playboy’s foreign edition issues still have nudes.

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