# pldennison, who the hell pissed in your Cheerios? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 29, 2000, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695 "2000-12-29T19:13:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/1 "2000-12-29T19:13:52Z")
I mean, what the hell is your deal, anyways? Everyone has an off day or too, but lately, you’ve been self-righteous as Hell, and I’m sure not the only Doper who has noticed. Perhaps I’m talking out of my ass, but good god, YOUR ass ain’t a goldmine. Can we say hypocrite? It’s okay for you to put down others for something you disagree with, yet they don’t have the same right? I usually refrain from this kind of thing, but I had a choice: start a hijack in one or more Pit threads, or turn a non-Pit thread into a flamefest. (Yeah, my explanation may not be good…however…) The evidence, your Honor: (bolding mine) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=52738](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=52738) > [@](#): > > Gee, an awful lot of people in this thread \*\*who don’t have girlfriends, significant others, or even > remote prospects \*\*sure have pretty strong opinions as to this woman’s state of mind and > desirability. Hope you’re proud of yourselves. My translation-you’re just losers who can’t get a date and you’re jealous. Yeah…that’s it exactly. :rolleyes: (bolding not mine) > [@](#): > > OK, Homer. Personally, I think that sending a lengthy, critical armchair psychoanalysis via e-mail > to a person you’ve never met, are not interested in dating and wouldn’t even know existed if some > other loser hadn’t posted a link on a message board is about as emotionally immature a cheap > shot as one can get. Pot-Kettle-Black. (bolding not mine) > [@](#): > > Because unlike some people in this thread, I have a wife. If you have a spouse, then I have to > wonder what you’re doing browsing the classified ads. > > ``` > Homer, apparently you can dish it out but you can't take it, eh? Tell me, what did you hope to > get out of your e-mail--a pity date? An angry response? Or do you just have so little self-esteem > (want me to find your "I'm a worthless piece of shit" Pit thread you started about yourself?) that > you needed to tear someone down to feel good about yourself? > > ``` My translation: I have a wife. Homer, you’re a stupid pathetic loser, and I just can’t be gracious about it-I have to rub it in that you feel bad from time to time. Oh, and did I mention I have a wife? Because I do have a wife. Fine, you have a wife. I’m sure Mommy is very proud. > [@](#): > > FYI, I had no intention of inciting anyone’s anger. I had and have an intention of calling 'em as I > see 'em And I’m calling 'em as **I** see 'em. > [@](#): > > Never saw the thread. See, I don’t read MPSIMS a lot. Most of my posts are in GD and GQ. In > fact, I only saw this thread because another Doper notified me of it. If it was the same kind of > thing as this, then shame on those people, too. Please, please, please don’t think that you are so > special that I singled your thread out. Until this thread, I had no idea you even existed. Translation: because I’m so wonderful, and I’m so great, and everyone is just sooooo beneath me! > [@](#): > > BTW, threads like this one really do a lot to help enforce the reputation of the SDMB as a place > where smart folks hang out. Again, you should be brimming with pride. Translation-because I have to point out that I’m so superior to everyone here. > [@](#): > > I know for a fact that several of the people posting in the thread do not have girlfriends or > prospects, and as such, perhaps they would be wise to refrain from criticizing the dating criteria > of others. Translation-because I already have a wife. See, I have a wife-and you have no one…so only I can say what other people are thinking because I’m the ultimate authority on romantic relationships. > [@](#): > > No, I think people whose dating lives currently equal less than zero should maybe shut their > mouths about other people’s love lives and how they choose their partners. Translation-again, you’re a loser because you’re single. And perhaps, you should take your own advice about keeping your mouth shut when you are not in the situation being discussed? Hmmmm? Some other threads for your enlightenment: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=52580&pagenumber=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=52580&pagenumber=1) [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=52409](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=52409) Yes, I know pl is a long time poster here, and I’m not going to win any fans by doing this. In fact, I’ll probably generate alot of hate. I don’t like doing personal attacks like this most of the time…BUT…for cryingoutloud, can’t this guy say what he thinks without being so goddamn smug and condescending? It’s not WHAT he’s saying that bothers me so much, but HOW he says it. Am I the only one who sees it? Am I going insane? Phil-here’s a stepladder. Use it to get over yourself. (TM SAAN). ---
**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/2 "2000-12-29T19:18:36Z")
**Phil’s** always like that; that’s why we love 'im. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/3 "2000-12-29T19:31:29Z")
Phil and I don’t always get along. We’ve…er…_had words_ in the past. But he isn’t really so bad once you learn to ignore the grumpy bits. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/4 "2000-12-29T19:33:14Z")
All I can say is that I **seriously** doubt that you’ll generate much hate by starting a Pit thread about me. In fact, you’ll probably be lauded as a heroine for the ages. I expect the firestorm any moment now. Oh, and in the thread you reference, I made clear that I know and admit that I am judging them as they judge the woman whose personal ad elmwood posted. That’s the difference–I admit it. I can dish it out _and_ take it. Now, go on and have your fun, folks. Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/5 "2000-12-29T19:36:33Z")
I’m with Gadarene. Phil’s a grumpy bastard, and I love 'im for it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/6 "2000-12-29T19:36:33Z")
Oh, I know that Opal. I just was ready to strangle the guy in several threads, and thought this would be more productive. _besides, I have Nothing to do today…the roads are bad so I can’t go anywhere and I’m BORED!!! -my kingdom for a trip to the Carnegie Library!_ Phil-where did I say I couldn’t take it? In fact, I think I’ve mentioned in several threads that I get off on people slamming me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/7 "2000-12-29T19:47:02Z")
As a fellow veggie, I have to respect Phil. But _yes_, oh my gosh, this fellow can be grumpy! ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/8 "2000-12-29T19:49:49Z")
You know what? Phil rubbed me wrong for a long time too. We even had a few very big altercations here in the Pit. But then I decided to stop looking for reasons to hate him, and start reading his posts objectively. And I have found for every one “smug, self-righteous, condensending” statement, there are at least 5 wonderful, brilliant, intelligents posts that really make me think. Like Gadarene says, he’s always like that, that’s why we love him. 😉 And I pretty much agree with every word Phil said in the thread that prompted **Guinastasia** to start this thread. AFAIC he was 110% right. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/9 "2000-12-29T19:51:18Z")
**Guin** , I think you are overreacting and possibly misinterpreting much of your “evidence for the prosecution.” It’s hardly Phil’s fault if you choose to interpret his words in the worst light. ---
**Author:** ![Crunchy\_Frog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ebca7d/32.png) [@Crunchy\_Frog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crunchy_Frog)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/10 "2000-12-29T20:11:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by andros \* > **It’s hardly Phil’s fault if you choose to interpret his words in the worst light.** I beg to differ, **andros**. It is Phil’s fault if you don’t take calling someone a loser in the best possible way. He repeatedly claimed they should keep their opinions to themselves if they aren’t in a relationship. How does being in a relationship make your opinions any more worthy than a single person’s? As I said in the thread in MPSIMS, I agreed with his message of not being jugmental, just not the delivery of his message. And what’s this crap about he calls 'em as he sees 'em. Isn’t that exactly what these guys did in that thread? It’s ok for **pldennison** to call 'em as he sees 'em, but not for these guys? Then he says the difference is he can dish it out _and_ take it. He admits he’s doing the exact same thing to these guys as they did to this Beth lady, but the difference is he _admits_ it. So it’s ok to be hypocritical if you _admit_ it? **Guinny** you seem to awfully alone here, and I don’t know how much help I’ll be to you, since for the most part I agree with **pl’s** sentiments in that thread. However I don’t think he gets a free pass to being a hypocritical ass to other people just cuz some people are used to it. We shouldn’t _have_ to get used it. He should be civil and respectful of others’ feelings, or at least try. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/11 "2000-12-29T20:21:28Z")
Hey, Crunchy-THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYING. And btw, I don’t mind being alone-I’m quite used to it and often I prefer it that way-I can always have my own way then…😉 I don’t necessarily agree with the guy all the time, although there are times when I do. But, as I said-it is the WAY HE SAYS IT. And hey, I’ll admit the Beth thing was kinda of cruel, but that’s not to say that I didn’t agree with most of what was being said about her. But basically, Phil took the holier than thou attitude…and that’s one thing that always chaps my ass. I don’t know if I’m overeacting, since I’m not devastated nor is smoke pouring out of my ears over this. (I’m kind of suffering from cabin fever right now, so bear with me.) It’s more like, yeesh, it’s starting to become annoying, and I’m venting. I actually feel a little bit better now, and don’t feel I have to keep harping on the guy with more stuff, only to try and explain myself. But, then, I’m only “calling it 'em as I see 'em.” And fine, you like the guy, admit he gets on your nerves, but you like him nevertheless. I think we all feel that way about many people. However, I’m not one to keep my mouth shut when someone does get on my nerves. Hey, feel free to start a Who Hates Guinastasia thread…you know, maybe I’ll start one myself…it feels GOOD to be hated…seriously-it’s kind of a wake up call to rein in one’s ego… Now, I’m going to go and bitch about being couped up all damn week. Winter break sucks monkey balls. ---
**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/12 "2000-12-29T20:39:21Z")
I like Phil, and I respect him, but in the Christmas holiday thread, I thought he had just _too_ much of an edge to him. That doesn’t make him a horrible bastard, but still…grumpy grumpy grumpy. ---
**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/13 "2000-12-29T20:50:49Z")
**ACTION NEWS FLASH** SDMB Reg discovers that PLDENNISON is often smug and/or curmudgeonly! “Posts often have an edge,” says surprised OP’er. In other breaking news, our investigative reporters have learned that local police officers are recieving free coffee at the Dunkin Donuts. Tonight at eleven, part four of our six part series: Bears – Defecating in our Forests. Also, an update: Pope John Paul II appears to be a member of the Roman Catholic church. We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/14 "2000-12-29T21:14:44Z")
I’m torn. I laughed my ass off at **Homer** ’s and **Ender** ’s responses, yet at the same time I mostly agree with **phil**. Perhaps this whole thing is really a non-issue. I saw the responses to the want ad as being meant in humor only, and took it at such. And **phil** ’s criticism of them as being a valid and on-point reminder that deep down, we really should not be judging the poor woman in question so harshly, or making assumptions about her. So I guess I’m saying IMO both “sides” are right. We can take humor in her, um, “strange” personal ad, and can also feel some compassion for her as well. Yes? ---
**Author:** ![BunnyGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@BunnyGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyGirl)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/15 "2000-12-29T21:26:17Z")
Frank! ::snort!:: Funny, man, very funny! 😃 (Uh oh, smilies in the Pit. Is there a fine for that?) ---
**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/16 "2000-12-29T22:06:24Z")
Okay, so everybody admits that **pldennison** can be smug and condescending. That’s neato. Hell, he’s had some good points in other threads, and can be funny. But as far as this thread is concerned, I’m gonna hop in the (admittedly small) boat with **Crunchy** and **Guin** by saying that there’s something a bit not right about bringing in unbased personal attacks into things. For one, it’s in MPSIMS. That’s one thing. For another, accusing everybody who was mad at Beth of being single, lifeless losers _doesn’t help your point_. As **Crunchy** stated in the actual thread, **obfusciatrist** was doing a much better job of arguing the point that you were trying to make, because **obfus** didn’t feel the need to approach it hypocritically (hey, spelled it right this time), and therefore got some of his points across. You’ve got the whole “smug” gimmick down, Phil. Kudos to you. Still, there are times when it just doesn’t help. My 2 cents. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/17 "2000-12-29T22:06:43Z")
Well put, Anthracite. I, however, would like to add the adjective, _childish_ to the actions of those who’ve typed responses to this woman. Childish, infantile, juvenile, puerile and immature. And maybe even reprehensible. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. ---
**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/18 "2000-12-29T22:26:52Z")
Admit it, Unc. You laughed your butt off when you read those e-mails. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/19 "2000-12-29T22:41:49Z")
**Orcachow** said > [@](#): > > If you can’t recognize the folly of engaging a woman like that, I’ll bet P.T. Barnum is proud of > himself. His most famous dictum holds up after all these years. What _did_ he say? Can you please enlighten me? Especially since: > [@](#): > > P. T. Barnum Never Did Say “There’s a Sucker Born Every Minute” P. T. Barnum is most often associated > with the circus sideshow and the display of freaks. While this is true, he is also the founding force behind > one of America’s most famous circuses:… ---
**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2000, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695/20 "2000-12-29T23:05:03Z")
Aw, hell, I think PLD’s earned a day or two of being a tad assholic… it’s soothing for the soul, don’tcha know. Heck, I’m being an asshole right now! Wooo! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pldennison-who-the-hell-pissed-in-your-cheerios/47695.md?page=2)