# Plea Bargaining: Spun off from the Elizabeth Holmes/Theranos discussion

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**Created:** [May 31, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plea-bargaining-spun-off-from-the-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-discussion/985061 "2023-05-31T00:05:14Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 5, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plea-bargaining-spun-off-from-the-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-discussion/985061/56 "2023-06-05T19:18:19Z")

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> [@The trial of Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos)\[sentenced to 11+ yrs, 18Nov2022\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trial-of-elizabeth-holmes-theranos-sentenced-to-11-yrs-18nov2022/946138/746):
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> Deterrence, sequestration when necessary and above all rehabilitation should be our only objectives.

Now that I can agree with. I think truth and justice are also important, but where justice is not vengeance, but rather that only those guilty undergo sequestration or rehabilitation.

> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Guilt is not only a question of fact, but of law. And the law can be complicated.

Indeed, I would have seen this as one of the ways Holmes may have been acquitted. There might be incontrovertible proof that she lied, but in order to be criminal fraud she had to lie in certain circumstance, to certain people, and with certain intent.

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