# Please ban Hiyruu now

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 13, 2001, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313 "2001-09-13T12:25:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2001, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/21 "2001-09-16T22:10:02Z")

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Have you seen his first few threads? One about [evolution being bunk](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=84636) in GD, one about [traveling faster the c](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85234) in MPSIMS and a 3rd about [economics of orgasm](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85812) in GQ which was about how people didn’t have to eat and drink at all. The latter is certainly a sensationalistic title meant to lure unsuspecting dopers into a cooky thread. On a side note I never got to ask him if he actually practices this.

I was actually wondering when he would get his own special pit thread. I’m not so sure he really needs to be banned as feel that sooner or later he’ll get bored (or be the recipient or a major cold shoulder) and leave as he has made no progress on any of his pet “”“theories”"" other then being laughed at or bitched at.

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**Author:** ![AM\_PM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AM\_PM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AM_PM)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/22 "2001-09-17T18:31:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Alphagene \*  
> \*\*The more lonely pathetic folk however, feel a need to post under different name, like AM/PM here. \*\*

A) I’ll bet I’m a lot less lonely than you. At least I don’t have to fill my days typing to the modern equivalent of pen pals. Look at your post count, and then tell me again how you have a RL.  
B) I guess pathos is where you find it. Mom gets hers on TV soaps, which some people call pathetic. You get yours here, and it’s the same thing. Pathetic.  
C) I don’t feel a need to post under a different name. I just think it’s stupid to pretend about what banning means to the bannee.

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/23 "2001-09-17T19:29:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AM/PM \*  
> [A) I’ll bet I’m a lot less lonely than you. At least I don’t have to fill my days typing to the modern equivalent of pen pals. Look at your post count, and then tell me again how you have a RL.

Look at the word under **Alphagene’s** name. See it? It says “Moderator”. What could that mean do you think? Do you think it possibly means that he posts a lot becauce he has to deal with fucknuts like you? And the “I have more of a life than you do” stance? You’ve clearly been reading the [handbook](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87747).

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> B) I guess pathos is where you find it. Mom gets hers on TV soaps, which some people call pathetic. You get yours here, and it’s the same thing. Pathetic.

What the fuck are you talking about now? I know what pathos is and I know what pathetic means and your lame attempt at clever-cleverness with semantics makes no sense. Are you saying that **Alphagene** is pathetic (and don’t even _try_ to pretend you don’t mean that perjoritively) because he spends time on these boards? Well I guess you’d better toddle off then - wouldn’t want you in the same boat would we?

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> C) I don’t feel a need to post under a different name. I just think it’s stupid to pretend about what banning means to the bannee. \*\*

Who cares what the bannee thinks? We don’t have magical powers and we can’t take away peoples keyboards, but once someone is banned they are persona non grata and remain persona non grata regardless of whether they think they are or not. ISPs are traceable, people are not stupid and socks are easily exposed. The banned stay banned.

Fran

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**Author:** ![Nefarious\_Chipmunk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nefarious_chipmunk/32/1045_2.png) [@Nefarious\_Chipmunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nefarious_Chipmunk)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/24 "2001-09-17T19:41:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AM/PM \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Alphagene \*  
> > \*\*The more lonely pathetic folk however, feel a need to post under different name, like AM/PM here. \*\*
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> A) I’ll bet I’m a lot less lonely than you. At least I don’t have to fill my days typing to the modern equivalent of pen pals. Look at your post count, and then tell me again how you have a RL.  
> B) I guess pathos is where you find it. Mom gets hers on TV soaps, which some people call pathetic. You get yours here, and it’s the same thing. Pathetic.  
> C) I don’t feel a need to post under a different name. I just think it’s stupid to pretend about what banning means to the bannee. \*\*

Are you trying to get banned just to prove your point, because I can’t think of any other reason you would be this stupid. Come to think of it, that doesn’t seem like much of a reason either.

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**Author:** ![AM\_PM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AM\_PM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AM_PM)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/25 "2001-09-17T20:30:34Z")

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Francesca - 1)Just because he posts as a moderator he must have a RL? Sorry. Some mods do and some don’t.  
2)Sticks and stones.

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> \*Originally posted by heraldgwena \*  
> \*\*Are you trying to get banned just to prove your point, because I can’t think of any other reason you would be this stupid. Come to think of it, that doesn’t seem like much of a reason either. \*\*

No.  
I’ll tell you how this board works- People insult you with lies, and either you can let them, or you can argue them point by point. Not much else, I’m afraid.

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/26 "2001-09-17T20:39:38Z")

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Did I say at any point he has more of a real life than you? And how is that relevant? So much for arguing arguing point-by-point. I’ve seen you post your “banning means nothing” statement in at least three threads now and you’re getting a little repetitive. Enjoying your rebel/matyr status are you?

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/27 "2001-09-17T21:09:29Z")

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Well yer a real bright one, ain’tcha?

First, a moderator (read that again: _moderator_) hints at the fact that you have or are a sock puppet(s). Instead of quietly slinking away before you got banned, or, at worst, defended yourself, what do you do? You lay barbs to said moderator.

Hoo, yeah, you’re a fuckin’ Einstein. Can I have your autograph?

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Nefarious\_Chipmunk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nefarious_chipmunk/32/1045_2.png) [@Nefarious\_Chipmunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nefarious_Chipmunk)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/28 "2001-09-17T23:22:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AM/PM \*
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> I’ll tell you how this board works- People insult you with lies, and either you can let them, or you can argue them point by point. Not much else, I’m afraid. \*\*

Ummm… actually there is a lot more to it then that, but if that is what you think, so be it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/29 "2001-09-17T23:31:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Francesca \*  
> The banned stay banned.

First band name on the boards I like. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/30 "2001-09-17T23:46:13Z")

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Alright, I’m gonna have the shit flamed out of me for this, but…

I love **Hiruu** ’s posts. I don’t take them seriously, mind you, but I absolutely adore the entire tin-foil hat culture. I don’t buy in to any of it, you understand, it’s just so much fun!

I am an avid listener to Art Bell, and I can’t get enough of listening to Richard Hoagland. I’ve never believed one theory from either of them, but dammit, they’re cool.

I say that the big H is not trolling, and while he may be in contrast to the attitudes of most people here, he’s not hurting anything.

LC

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/31 "2001-09-18T00:13:02Z")

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Yeah **Lucki** , it’s really funny to spread ignorance on boards dedicted to fighting it.

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**Author:** ![Alphagene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Alphagene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alphagene)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/32 "2001-09-18T00:13:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AM/PM \*  
> **A) I’ll bet I’m a lot less lonely than you.**

Oh man. You are _so_ on, Travis Bickle. So what are the terms of our bet? Something simple? Like the number of people who want to have sex with me, as opposed to you? Or should it be more existential? Like whose funeral will have more mourners tossing themselves on the coffin, cursing a God who blessed the people of this world with a being of such intangible hunkitude only to remind them that true pulchritude is ephemeral.

Either way, I’m up a few bucks.

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> \*\*I guess pathos is where you find it. Mom gets hers on TV soaps, which some people call pathetic. You get yours here, and it’s the same thing. Pathetic. \*\*

Dude, you realize you just called your own mother pathetic. Perhaps your severe paranoia stems from unresolved maternal issues. Lemme guess. You’re a big Russ Meyer fan.  
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> C) I don’t feel a need to post under a different name. I just think it’s stupid to pretend about what banning means to the bannee. \*\*

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody really gets banned and all Mods are LIARS. We mods squirt an extensive web of deceipt and betrayal from our diabolical spinnerets. And only you, Citizen AM/PM, have the guts to expose this vast network of corruption to the world. With your strong desire for Truth and your thrifty NetZero account, justice shall be yours!

Now go do something productive with your paranoia. Like check your toilet for an X10 camera or something.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/33 "2001-09-18T00:17:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Zaphod Beeblebrox \*  
> > \*\*I guess I’m thinking along the lines of “let it be for now, but if he acts like this again, shitcan him.” \*\*
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> Yer hired. 😉
> 
> I didn’t actually see the two other threads when I commented on his post about the Coup album cover. And guess what - that story was actually legit. Yeah, he was crossing the line when he called me a dickhead. Hence the little note.
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> For now, he’s a posting member. But we’d like to see he learned something about board behaviour today. \*\*

So. Let me get this straight. I can get away with attacking clog-boy any time I want to, but only once, is that it?

(Just wondering. I haven’t used mine up yet,)

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/34 "2001-09-18T00:22:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Francesca \*  
> \*\*Yeah **Lucki** , it’s really funny to spread ignorance on boards dedicted to fighting it. \*\*

Dedic **a** ted too. Damn my typing skills.

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**Author:** ![Lucki\_Chaarms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lucki\_Chaarms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucki_Chaarms)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/35 "2001-09-18T01:46:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Francesca \*  
> \*\*Yeah **Lucki** , it’s really funny to spread ignorance on boards dedicted to fighting it. \*\*

I didn’t mean funny so much as entertaining. If you can suspend your disbelief for a few minutes when listening to Richard Hoagland or Art Bell then it’s like your real life becomes The X-Files. Cool.

I’m not saying that this is some lofty ideal, just fun. And as I said, I love listening to wild conspiracy theorists and tinfoil-hat wearers. I find it sort of engaging.

I was just making the point that I enjoy his posts, and I don’t think he’s trolling, and he isn’t hurting anything. Certainly not worthy of a pit thread demanding his banning (exception: the Coldy = dickhead thing, but he apologized)

My almost certainly unpopular 2 cents.

LC

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/36 "2001-09-18T13:28:12Z")

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What? AM/PM resurfaces to moan about the boards? again?

I never would have guessed…

:: waiting for Mu Mu to turn up, as usual ::

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/37 "2001-09-18T13:54:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Alphagene \*  
> \*\*Oh man. You are _so_ on, Travis Bickle. So what are the terms of our bet? Something simple? Like the number of people who want to have sex with me, as opposed to you? Or should it be more existential? Like whose funeral will have more mourners tossing themselves on the coffin, cursing a God who blessed the people of this world with a being of such intangible hunkitude only to remind them that true pulchritude is ephemeral.
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> Either way, I’m up a few bucks.  
> \*\*

Great googly-moogly. I think I feel a need to send **Alphagene** ten bucks after reading that.

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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/38 "2001-09-18T14:01:42Z")

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**Twisty** - you’re five days [late](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=86805) 😉

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/39 "2001-09-18T14:02:04Z")

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Are you asserting a conspiracy surrounding usernames in the 2+2 format, **Twisty**?

Hmmmmmm…

pan

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-ban-hiyruu-now/81313/40 "2001-09-18T14:38:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lucki Chaarms \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by Francesca \*  
> > \*\*Yeah **Lucki** , it’s really funny to spread ignorance on boards dedicted to fighting it. \*\*
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> I’m not saying that this is some lofty ideal, just fun. And as I said, I love listening to wild conspiracy theorists and tinfoil-hat wearers. I find it sort of engaging.
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> My almost certainly unpopular 2 cents.
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> LC \*\*

Ain’t unpopular with me, **Lucki**. I like reading about wacky conspiracy theories, idiotic pseudo-science and belong to a e-group where this sort of book is discussed. I used to occasionally listen to Art Bell (but since he’s discovered those idiot “remote viewers” he’s just dull).

Donna Kossy wrote a book called [“Kooks”](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0922915679/qid=1000823781/sr=2-3/ref=sr_8_3_3/103-0908463-8402254) dealing with these sorts of people that you might enjoy (she’s got a new one called something like “Strange Origins” about wacky anti-Darwinian theories that I’ve just started).

So no. You aren’t alone.

Fenris

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