# Please check my new PC build **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 24, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008 "2016-02-24T19:10:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/21 "2016-02-26T18:28:39Z")
> [@MikeG](#): > > Also I’d strongly recommend a i4790k and ncis is you if you are gaming. What are the advantages of that as opposed to, say, an i5 4690k? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/22 "2016-02-26T19:02:45Z")
I think you’re going to need more Strength or you wont be able to do enough damage. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/23 "2016-02-26T22:13:19Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > One thing I’d say is that there’s no reason with Windows 10 not to go with OEM versions. You will not be able to transfer the license, since it’s device locked. > > Definitely go with Windows 10 Pro, and don’t worry if it’s only on DVD. You can download the [Media Creation Tool](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10) to make your own USB install disk, and then use the license from the DVD. Plus, that gets you the latest ISO, so fewer updates will be needed to get you up and running. > > I see an [OEM Windows 10 Pro DVD on Amazon](http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-System-Builder-Disc/dp/B00ZSHDJ4O) for $103, cheaper than what you’re paying for Windows 10 “Basic.” And a 4 gig flash drive is what, $4? And you probably already have one. I just looked up the restrictions on the OEM version, and it says it is locked to the model of motherboard it is installed on. Which I guess is Ok. But it seems like that could lead to problems down the road. But for the price, I guess it makes since. ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/24 "2016-02-26T22:32:58Z")
Find a $50 case and get a better psu. Cases are irrelevant, a twitchy or overtaxed psu will be a nightmare. Eta…already addressed ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/25 "2016-02-26T23:23:22Z")
G.SKILL Aegis 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Intel Z170 Platform / Intel X99 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-2133C15D-8GIS > **[G.SKILL Aegis 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Desktop Memory Model...](https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-8gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232241)** > > Buy G.SKILL Aegis 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Desktop Memory Model F4-2133C15D-8GIS with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg! $35 Looking at this RAM. And anyone see any issues with going with the OEM Windows? Thanks for all the help guys. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/26 "2016-02-26T23:55:34Z")
> [@jacobsta811](#): > > You are right that the 2nd specific build he proposed can’t run the RAM at 2400 - but it is because of the H170 motherboard (instead of Z170) and not the CPU itself. > > [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-intel-skylake-core-i5-6500-review](http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-intel-skylake-core-i5-6500-review) > > If you scroll about halfway down this gives an idea of the changes just when the memory speed changed on an i5-6500. Not life changing, but it does make a (very small) difference. Interesting. I’m behind on recent overclocking news and missed that Skylake non-K processors can be overclocked. You are technically correct, the i5-6500 can use faster memory. Still, without specifically overclocking it, the faster memory will only run at 2133: [http://ark.intel.com/products/88184/Intel-Core-i5-6500-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3\_60-GHz](http://ark.intel.com/products/88184/Intel-Core-i5-6500-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz) ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/27 "2016-02-27T00:15:06Z")
> [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](#): > > G.SKILL Aegis 8GB (2 x 4GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Intel Z170 Platform / Intel X99 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-2133C15D-8GIS > [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232241](http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232241) > $35 > > Looking at this RAM. And anyone see any issues with going with the OEM Windows? > > Thanks for all the help guys. That RAM would work fine. The only real downside with OEM is that the license is tied to the hardware. Legally, if you switch out the motherboard, or especially if you build an entirely new system, you should buy a new copy of Windows. Things might have changed recently, but in the past if the OEM version failed to activate due to a hardware change you would be prompted to call an automated 800 number and could still get it activated that way. ---
**Author:** ![nesta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a4c791/32.png) [@nesta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nesta)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/28 "2016-02-27T00:26:11Z")
Forgot to add: I see **BigT** is recommending the Pro version of OEM. You can also get OEM Home: > **[Windows 10 Home - 64-bit, Digital Download, CD Key - Newegg.com](https://www.newegg.com/microsoft-windows-10-home-64-bit/p/N82E16832416892)** > > Buy Microsoft Windows 10 Home, 64-bit, DVD - Operating Systems with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg! Unless you have a specific need for the Pro features (and few home users do) you can probably save a few dollars sticking with the Home version. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/29 "2016-02-27T00:28:49Z")
You know, I just looked in my NewEgg order history, and I built my current system in 2007. Really time for an upgrade. I am unlikely to build a new system for quite some time, so I guess the OEM windows is fine. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/30 "2016-02-27T10:00:59Z")
> [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](#): > > I just looked up the restrictions on the OEM version, and it says it is locked to the model of motherboard it is installed on. Which I guess is Ok. But it seems like that could lead to problems down the road. > > But for the price, I guess it makes since. My point is that, with Windows 10, you’ll be locked to the motherboard model no matter what. They do hardware hashes even on Retail. Licenses are now tied to the hardware. I just recommend Pro because I had issues getting networking things up and running on “basic.” And I think someone who games will need the ability to control how updates work so you aren’t forced to use Microsoft’s drivers even though you installed a better one from the manufacturer. I think it’s worth it to pay a bit more for Pro, just to have more control over your system. Just the ability to control when you update–only when you choose to restart your system–is great. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/31 "2016-02-27T22:20:38Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > My point is that, with Windows 10, you’ll be locked to the motherboard model no matter what. They do hardware hashes even on Retail. Licenses are now tied to the hardware. Do you have a cite for that? Because all I see online is that upgrading from Windows 7 or 8 will be locked to the motherboard. No mention of the retail version being locked. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/32 "2016-02-27T23:33:55Z")
> [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](#): > > The GTX 970 is $100 more. I just can’t justify that price difference. Thanks though. It’s also 40% better. I think you’d be better off going with a core i3-6100 and dumping the savings into the GPU. It’s only a dual core vs a quad core, but there are only a handful of tasks that benefit from having four cores. > **[Not Found: 404 Error](https://www.newegg.com/404)** > > Shop ---
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_Man\_In\_Black](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_In_Black)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008/33 "2016-02-29T01:01:41Z")
Ok, I think I was talked into the GTX 970 and the OEM pro. Keeping everything else the same. I think I will order it tomorrow night. Thanks for all the advice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-check-my-new-pc-build/747008.md?page=1)