# Please could you unblock the nutter thread?

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**Created:** [May 9, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847 "2009-05-09T14:07:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/1 "2009-05-09T14:07:10Z")

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> **[What is gravity really? Take II](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=516292)**
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> Is space flowing into mass is consistent with a theory of everything unifying all force into one? I find observation in verse reason supports it is. Please feel free to offer observation and reason not. Please feel free to ask clarification. Does...

Now, I understand that this thread was started by some bananas guy gibbering about ‘ducky waves’, but pretty much all the participants were just ignoring him and an interesting thread was developing - any chance of it being reopened?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/2 "2009-05-09T16:01:47Z")

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Don’t worry, he’ll start another thread on the subject eventually. This was like his third or fourth.

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**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/3 "2009-05-09T16:07:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Superimpose image hurricane in verse galaxy.  
> Mark lines iso warp and bar.  
> I do not believe in the dark force of bar.  
> I do not believe in the dark force or warp.

…just… wow  
If you could crystallize that and sell it to crackheads you’d get rich!

My first take was that you could start a new thread on the same subject, but I’m not sure what the subject was, exactly.

Is math something that humans have learned about the universe or is it something humans created to describe the universe; meaning it is always an approximation.

…biocentrism… solipsism… iso warp and bar  
Gavotte and bow,  
in autumn,  
Bashō and his friends go out to view the moon;  
in summer  
maybe it’s better to be closed now.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/4 "2009-05-09T18:37:18Z")

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I read the last thread too. Same nuttery goodness.

From his profile page:  
“ **rwjefferson** has not made any friends yet”  
I know this standard internet lingo but seems ironically funny in this case.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/5 "2009-05-10T01:38:51Z")

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Sorry, but tomndebb made it clear that he would accept no less than rationality and not getting it, shut down the merry go round.

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**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/6 "2009-05-10T01:52:24Z")

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> [@TubaDiva](#):
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> Sorry, but tomndebb made it clear that he would accept no less than rationality …

Actually, all he asked for was prose and he couldn’t even get that.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/7 "2009-05-10T02:31:59Z")

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I’d like to kn ow if anyone can understand. So I can avoid them. I don’t even talk like that after a happy hour.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/8 "2009-05-10T03:27:33Z")

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That’s really amazing.

Someone posts a turkey of an OP and **Tomndebb** warns the original poster against nonsense posting and tells him to write in prose or be closed down.

Meanwhile, the threads turns into an interesting discussion about the value of math vs philosophy in describing the universe, TOE, QM, and more. There is input from several different posters. I’m about to ask if math is the only absolute when…

The OP pops in again at Post #68 and writes more gibberish in difiance of **Tom’s** warning. **Tom** “moderates” by closing the thread, thus throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Remind me not to bother with a thread when a mod puts that much power into someone else’s hands.

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**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/9 "2009-05-10T11:07:21Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> Someone posts a turkey of an OP .. **Tomndebb** warns the original poster .. the thread turns into an interesting discussion about the value of math vs philosophy in describing the universe, TOE, QM, .. The OP writes more gibberish .. **Tom** “moderates” by closing the thread.

The only part you missed (presumably) is the part where the OP opened version 1.0 of his thread.

I recently heard of something called [Poe’s Law](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poe%27s+Law), regarding parodies of Fundamentalism. I believe the opposite effect is in play here.

Despite a thread topic that was “playing” with conceptual physics, posters who really knew something about what they were posting made a farce into an interesting discussion.

And just because the thread is closed, doesn’t mean you can’t read the posts and continue the discussion into another thread if you like. I recognized a lot of names from that aborted trainwreck and with the proper blandishments I think they could be lured into continuing their discussion.

As for putting the power in someone else’s hands, I think the metaphor in this case should be putting enough rope in someone else’s hands.

However, in the spirit of cooperation, I will try to remind you not to bother with a thread when the Mod puts that much power into someone else’s hands. Should I e-mail?,… phone call? …text?

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/10 "2009-05-10T11:09:21Z")

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Wow- that was a pretty strong response.

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**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/11 "2009-05-10T11:29:25Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Wow- that was a pretty strong response.

_blandishments_ was a little over-the-top, wasn’t it? 😉

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/12 "2009-05-10T15:01:10Z")

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> [@SiXSwordS](#):
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> _blandishments_ was a little over-the-top, wasn’t it? 😉

Just pointing out that I’ve never been enticed into anything by a bland dish… \<blink\>

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/13 "2009-05-10T18:49:28Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> **Tom** “moderates” by closing the thread, thus throwing the baby out with the bath water.

The thread had had no responses for over a day before the OP returned with his idiotic attempt at poetry.  
Following that nonsensical bump, the thread continued to lay dormant for over ten more hours before I stumbled across it and put it out of my misery.

A thread without a single legitimate response in 41 hours (43 hours from the last substantive response) is hardly being yanked away from its myriad fans and supporters.  
Anyone who wishes to re-open the topic, (or any related topic), is welcome to do so. I am not that keen on having my inbox fill up with troll reports for what is, essentially, a dead thread.

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**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/14 "2009-05-10T20:05:42Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> The thread had had no responses for over a day before the OP returned with his idiotic attempt at poetry. … I am not that keen on having my inbox fill up with troll reports for what is, essentially, a dead thread.

OMMFG! Hybrid Zombie Trolls!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/15 "2009-05-11T00:00:54Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> The thread had had no responses for over a day before the OP returned with his idiotic attempt at poetry.  
> Following that nonsensical bump, the thread continued to lay dormant for over ten more hours before I stumbled across it and put it out of my misery.
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> A thread without a single legitimate response in 41 hours (43 hours from the last substantive response) is hardly being yanked away from its myriad fans and supporters.  
> Anyone who wishes to re-open the topic, (or any related topic), is welcome to do so. I am not that keen on having my inbox fill up with troll reports for what is, essentially, a dead thread.

Fair enough mate, I didn’t register the time stamps 🆒

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/16 "2009-05-11T04:48:15Z")

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I figured, why not start a [new, more focued thread…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11127178#post11127178) Worth a shot. 😉

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**Author:** ![SiXSwordS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@SiXSwordS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiXSwordS)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/17 "2009-05-11T11:23:10Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> I figured, why not start a [new, more focued thread…](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11127178#post11127178) Worth a shot. 😉

Nicely done! I would have been hard pressed to form such a coherent take from the material at hand.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/18 "2009-05-11T14:29:45Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> I am not that keen on having my inbox fill up with troll reports for what is, essentially, a dead thread.

As a general question, then, not mentioning any names, if a poster who is generally considered a troll and who has been warned for this specific trollish activity in the past posts a post that is so obviously trollish that it will generate a flood of troll reports and forces the locking of a thread, why then does this poster remain unbanned?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/19 "2009-05-11T16:08:39Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> As a general question, then, not mentioning any names, if a poster who is generally considered a troll and who has been warned for this specific trollish activity in the past posts a post that is so obviously trollish that it will generate a flood of troll reports and forces the locking of a thread, why then does this poster remain unbanned?

I have an inkling, that a particular poster might not necessarily be trolling (although, I’m not ruling it out), but might have a mental instability of some sort. FWIW.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-could-you-unblock-the-nutter-thread/495847/20 "2009-05-11T22:51:02Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> As a general question, then, not mentioning any names, if a poster who is generally considered a troll and who has been warned for this specific trollish activity in the past posts a post that is so obviously trollish that it will generate a flood of troll reports and forces the locking of a thread, why then does this poster remain unbanned?

When said poster so rarely actually visits the board that he or she has accumulated very few Warnings, only one for trolling, and those Warnings issued months ago, we do not tend to leap to ban.

(Depending on the quality of the posts, the possibility of banning exists, of course, but then we also have to consider the hoopla that splashes up from our jack boots every time anyone is banned, regardless how deserving, so we tend to try to accumulating a lot of evidence before dropping the hammer.)
