# Please describe this vehicle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 27, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900 "2019-09-27T07:14:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/21 "2019-09-27T17:58:40Z")

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That. Is \>Awesome! Now I want to install a 20 Gal. Vape tank and roll licorice scented coal on all those diesels!

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/22 "2019-09-27T18:32:55Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> But this isn’t the strangest looking EV I’ve seen on that site. Some time back, there was a van (at least they claimed it was a van) that looked for all the world like a bicycle helmet on wheels. I’m pretty sure it was just a prototype, since I haven’t seen a picture of it since. I wish I’d saved a link to that article (I tried to find it later, but failed).

Found it on a different site: [bicycle helmet on wheels](https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/10/17840936/mercedes-benz-vision-urbanetic-self-driving-electric-concept-design). And look who the manufacturer is!

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/23 "2019-09-27T18:37:40Z")

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It looks as if it was designed to be easy to manufacture from flat parts using obvious fasteners.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/24 "2019-09-27T22:32:48Z")

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Well, when a HMMWV (Humvee) and a Mercedes G-Wagen love each other _Very Much_……….

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**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/25 "2019-09-27T22:47:36Z")

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It’s a pixalated 8-bit design. Odd the wheels aren’t square.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/26 "2019-09-27T22:52:27Z")

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I’d call it Soviet utilitarian.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/27 "2019-09-27T23:06:47Z")

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I kind of like it, I could see a mod culture growing up around individualizing them.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/28 "2019-09-27T23:14:21Z")

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It looks exactly like I used to draw every car when I was four years old.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/29 "2019-09-27T23:39:11Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> It looks exactly like I used to draw every car when I was four years old.

[This is the car](https://i.imgur.com/SVQxkzU.jpg) I used to draw in kindergarten.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/30 "2019-09-28T02:26:01Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I kind of like it, I could see a mod culture growing up around individualizing them.

What he said, along with MacTech’s observation above. The stats at the link are imposing. 660 some odd horsepower. I’d be interested to see it do some raid rallying, like whatever they call Paris-Dakar now.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/31 "2019-09-28T02:42:10Z")

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this is the embodiment of “has the aerodynamics of a brick”, well, maybe a cinder block…

in a way it kind of reminds me of a throwaway line in the old F-18 Hornet flight simulator game manual, where it was describing the different aircraft you would encounter, for the F-4 Phantom it was described as "this aircraft embodies the philosophy of ‘given enough thrust, even a brick can fly’ "

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/32 "2019-09-28T03:00:20Z")

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That page in the OP has links to earlier vehicles made by Bollinger. [This one](https://electrek.co/2018/09/26/bollinger-b1-updates-all-electric-truck-design-removable-glass/) looks like they used an Erector Set to model the body.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/33 "2019-09-28T03:14:05Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Utilitarian?
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> I like it _if_ the design is based on easy repair/maintenance. I’d love to own a vehicle built with ease of care in mind, totally ignoring visual appeal.

> [@panache45](#):
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> I’d call it Soviet utilitarian.

Utilitarian use and [Brutalist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalist_architecture) style.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/34 "2019-09-28T03:15:30Z")

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I like EVs and I kinda like the no-frills look. I’m not in the market for a new vehicle, but when the lease is up on my Bolt I may look at one of these.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/35 "2019-09-28T03:15:59Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> That page in the OP has links to earlier vehicles made by Bollinger. [This one](https://electrek.co/2018/09/26/bollinger-b1-updates-all-electric-truck-design-removable-glass/) looks like they used an Erector Set to model the body.

Looking at the [company website](https://bollingermotors.com/), I don’t think the SUV is an earlier vehicle. Instead, I think both are planned.

BTW, I wonder how either vehicle would perform in a crash test.

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**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/36 "2019-09-28T03:21:04Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Utilitarian use and [Brutalist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalist_architecture) style.

Exactly what I was thinking.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/37 "2019-09-28T04:08:38Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> this is the embodiment of “has the aerodynamics of a brick”, well, maybe a cinder block…
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> in a way it kind of reminds me of a throwaway line in the old F-18 Hornet flight simulator game manual, where it was describing the different aircraft you would encounter, for the F-4 Phantom it was described as "this aircraft embodies the philosophy of ‘given enough thrust, even a brick can fly’ "

“The J79 turbojet produces enough thrust to make a brick fly. The F-4 Phantom requires two.”

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/38 "2019-09-28T16:13:33Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Looking at the [company website](https://bollingermotors.com/), I don’t think the SUV is an earlier vehicle. Instead, I think both are planned.

The Erector Set vehicle is an earlier version of the SUV, not of the pickup. Sorry I didn’t make that clear. The pickup didn’t change a huge amount from the earlier version, at least on the outside.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/39 "2019-09-28T16:44:52Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> The Erector Set vehicle is an earlier version of the SUV, not of the pickup. Sorry I didn’t make that clear. The pickup didn’t change a huge amount from the earlier version, at least on the outside.

I should also point out that the pickup and SUV are, underneath, the same vehicle. The chassis, battery, and motors are likely the exact same. It’s just the sheet metal on top that differs. This model of making EVs is going to be common. OK, it’s already fairly common, but even more so for EVs. I understand that Volkswagen (at least I think it’s them) is planning to make about 20 very different cars that way.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/40 "2019-09-28T16:49:26Z")

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I think you’re thinking of the [Volkswagen I.D. Series](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_I.D._series) and the MEB platform.

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