# Please describe this vehicle **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 27, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900 "2019-09-27T07:14:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/41 "2019-09-28T21:38:12Z")
My take would be that it’s designed to be produced by a company that expects to have too small a production run to be able to afford shaping metal any more than the absolute minimum necessary for the thing to mildly function as a vehicle. In a sense, I’d applaud them for being practical in their design. However, since aerodynamics are a significant factor in efficiency and battery-powered cars are already short on distance - let alone when making a vehicle the size of a pickup - I’m going to have the say that they’ve failed a pretty vital aspect of their design-work. That leads me to expect that they’ll just glue some bits together cheaply and try to rush off before people figure out that the car is either already at capacity just trying to haul its batteries around or needs to be recharged so often that it’s impractical for any real world use. If I needed a pickup, I wouldn’t buy this vehicle unless I could drive it around for a week and put it through a pretty serious set of tests. Minus that and I’ll let someone else be the test case. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/42 "2019-09-29T17:07:07Z")
Jeep Gladiator and an H1 have a baby. ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/43 "2019-09-30T22:52:10Z")
The fact you can stick 16 ft 2x4s through the truck and close both tailgates is pretty frickin awesome. The passthrough goes from the front bumper to the back! ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/44 "2019-09-30T23:50:16Z")
It kind of reminds me of the [GM Basic Transportation Vehicle](http://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/automotive-history-compadre-the-anti-cadillac-for-developing-nations/), an extremely basic truck designed in the 1970s to be easily assembled in developing countries from flat pieces of sheet metal. Although the SUV version also kind of reminds me of a Land Rover Defender. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/45 "2019-10-01T00:46:58Z")
The truck to buy if you’re going to be driving on the moon, where you don’t have to worry about wind resistance! ---
**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/46 "2019-10-01T15:58:15Z")
I have to wonder if it’s really that bad aerodynamically to any other pick-up, though. I’ll grant it doesn’t have the lines of a modern pick-up but if you compare it to an F-150 or a Silverado is it really that much worse? IIRC, There was an article in PM years ago comparing a NASCAR vs a GTP and even though the Chevy looked like a brick comparatively it was actually smoother through the air. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/47 "2019-10-01T16:11:13Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > It’s a pickup truck designed by a small child or an adult who is allergic to curves. Or an industrial designer who phoned it in. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/48 "2019-10-01T16:16:19Z")
No, I think any industrial or car designer would be embarrassed to be associated with that design, or lack thereof. Even a freshman in a car design program could design something with more style than that. Basically it looks like a vehicle designed by an engineer (and I say that as an engineer). ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/49 "2019-10-01T16:31:30Z")
Watching that picture load was like unwrapping what you think is a Transformer but actually getting a Go-Bot. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/50 "2019-10-01T16:43:00Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > No, I think any industrial or car designer would be embarrassed to be associated with that design, or lack thereof. Even a freshman in a car design program could design something with more style than that. Basically it looks like a vehicle designed by an engineer (and I say that as an engineer). I honestly think that’s it. I’m guessing the company decided to cut costs by not hiring an industrial designer or automotive stylist, and just let the engineers handle the styling. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/51 "2019-10-01T17:48:40Z")
Did they have to make it ugly? There are no contours or smoothness to the vehicle at all. It looks like the product of an Erector Set used in concert with a Lego Set. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/52 "2019-10-25T02:56:56Z")
Well they just came out with a price for those bad boys: [$125K](https://cleantechnica.com/2019/10/24/bollinger-electric-suv-pickup-prices-announced/). I wonder if they come in mauve or puce… ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/53 "2019-10-25T03:21:54Z")
I can see where these would be a great base for Steampunk fashion mods. Coming soon to a Burning Man Festival near you! ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/54 "2019-10-25T03:29:08Z")
battle-sedan ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/55 "2019-10-25T13:29:06Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > I can see where these would be a great base for Steampunk fashion mods. > > Coming soon to a Burning Man Festival near you! One of the basic tenants of an art car at Burning Man is that you can’t tell what’s underneath. For example, a Burner here in Arizona bought himself a fire truck manufactured by the Walter Truck Company and turned it into [Walter the Bus](http://walterproductions.com/the-walter-show/walter-the-bus/), a twice-size VW bus. Later, he acquired another and wanted to keep in pretty intact. There was a lot of back and forth with the Department of Mutant Vehicles before he could bring it as [Heathen](http://walterproductions.com/the-walter-show/heathen/)\* mainly because it has a seven-foot diameter poofer on the back and generally hauls around [Kalliope](http://walterproductions.com/the-walter-show/kalliope/), a soundstage trailer. Therefore before that… thing could be brought to the playa it would have to be drastically altered. This would be a good thing. \*It was originally working for the Heath, California FD. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/56 "2019-10-25T13:55:56Z")
Industrial hideous. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/57 "2019-10-25T18:04:40Z")
I don’t care much about looks but the performance stats are fucking impressive. A pickup isn’t supposed to be a fashion statement nor are they intended for taking long drives unless you’re hauling a bigass trailer or camping way off road. If the seat is comfortable and it handles well, that would be a fine work truck. Aside from the no-doubt astronomical cost. Maybe they’re angling for a defense contract. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/58 "2019-10-25T18:23:14Z")
> [@SmartAleq](#): > > A pickup isn’t supposed to be a fashion statement If what you want is the opposite of a fashion statement, this vehicle is for you. But there’s gotta be some middle ground somewhere; this thing is deliberately ugly. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/59 "2019-10-25T18:58:58Z")
I very intentionally drive ugly cars, keeps the hoboes from breaking the windows constantly. Mechanically great, I keep my rides in fine fettle under the hood but the outside? I’m fine with bangs and dings and scratches and no, I almost never send them through the car wash. My pickup is uglier than that one but tows nor loads anywhere near as much so… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/60 "2019-11-22T07:24:33Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > It’s an electric truck, so is this the wave of the future? Well, I don’t think Tesla’s truck will look anything like that so we’re probably safe. Well, I was right about [Tesla’s truck](https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck) not looking like it. But I’m not so sure about “being safe” from strange designs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900.md?page=4)