# Please describe this vehicle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 27, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900 "2019-09-27T07:14:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/61 "2019-11-22T08:12:53Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Well, I was right about [Tesla’s truck](https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck) not looking like it. But I’m not so sure about “being safe” from strange designs.

Kinda funny that the Rivian, despite itself being pretty unusual-looking, is still by far the tamest design between them, Bollinger, and Tesla.

Well, Musk at least has been hinting since the beginning (if the name wasn’t enough of a giveaway) that the Cybertruck would be polarizing at best. And that they might make a normal truck if the demand is too low:

> [@Elon Musk](#):
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> I’m personally super-excited by this pickup truck. It’s something I’ve been wanting to make for a long time. And I’ve been iterating sort of designs with Franz … It’s like I really wanted something that’s like super-futuristic cyberpunk. Which, if it doesn’t … if I’m weirdly like … if there’s only a small number of people that like that truck, I guess we’ll make a more conventional truck in the future. But it’s the thing that I am personally most fired up about. It’s gonna have a lot of titanium.

The thing is, if even 5% of the truck market thinks it’s badass, or doesn’t care about the looks and likes the practicality, that’s probably enough to saturate Tesla’s ability to produce them. [Performance seems decent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKX7mwWnygE), at any rate.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/62 "2019-11-22T15:49:45Z")

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Wow. That Tesla truck is really ugly, perhaps even uglier than the Bollinger.

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**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/63 "2019-11-22T16:20:18Z")

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A great vid explaining the[Bollinger B1 and B2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yIChwMkpQ8) features. I’d drive one if I had the means.

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**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/64 "2019-11-22T16:31:59Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Wow. That Tesla truck is really ugly, perhaps even uglier than the Bollinger.

I have to agree. it looks like a prop from Robo-cop or a bad 80s sci-fi movie. The ideas in the truck are good, the execution is, bad.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/65 "2019-11-22T16:41:23Z")

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The other thing is I notice that a lot of the pickups used for actual work by tradespeople often have a rack above the bed attached to the hood above the passenger compartment. Real pickup trucks also have holes along the sidewalls, where supports can be inserted, or tie-off points along the outside. This truck is missing all of that, although I do see a couple of tie-off points on the inside of the bed, towards the bottom.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/66 "2019-11-22T16:47:19Z")

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One more thing. Apparently Musk tried to demonstrate the shatter-proof glass used in the windows, but they shattered on impact.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/67 "2019-11-22T16:48:03Z")

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It’s just a concept.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/68 "2019-11-22T17:03:37Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> It’s just a concept.

It is not. They are taking reservations. [https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck](https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck)

ETA: and that is the ugliest car I have ever seen. I have to go look at a Pontiac Aztek just to cleanse my eyes. In the Breaking Bad reboot in 2040, Walter White will be driving the Cybertuktuk (or however it is spelled).

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/69 "2019-11-22T17:04:56Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> One more thing. Apparently Musk tried to demonstrate the shatter-proof glass used in the windows, but they shattered on impact.

My theory is that Musk came up with this live “test the windows” idea on the day of and none of the engineers who knew better were around to tell him, “Hey, we only put the armor glass on the windshield!” The windshield is huge and doesn’t have the compound curves that most cars have to provide it with strength, so my thought is that maybe they had to develop a special glass for it.

Just a hunch.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/70 "2019-11-22T17:51:45Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> It is not. They are taking reservations. [https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck](https://www.tesla.com/cybertruck)
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> ETA: and that is the ugliest car I have ever seen. I have to go look at a Pontiac Aztek just to cleanse my eyes. In the Breaking Bad reboot in 2040, Walter White will be driving the Cybertuktuk (or however it is spelled).

Yes I went there. $100 to reserve. That”s fine, but I still think it’s an early concept and when it goes to production it’ll look significantly different from those images, which I just captured and posted to imgur for eventual comparison — [Tesla Cybertruck — site accessed 2019-11-22 - Album on Imgur](https://imgur.com/gallery/C3t6xRR).

Let me know if there are different images for this concept that aren’t represented by the images I captured.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/71 "2019-11-22T17:55:57Z")

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Uhm, Elon Musk just had a big event unveiling the truck; it’s advertised on the website and the company is taking money from customers to reserve it; production is starting in about a year and a half; and you’re saying “Nope that’s not what they are going to build?”

What is your basis for this statement? Where, exactly, did you see that this is nothing but an “early concept?”

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/72 "2019-11-22T20:26:49Z")

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I am sharing my opinion. That’s based on car companies frequently building concepts to try ideas out and gauge public responses.

You may be right, it may be **the** truck that will be in production.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-describe-this-vehicle/840900/73 "2019-11-22T20:29:01Z")

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Wall Street Journal, this morning: Tesla Unveiled a Bulletproof Pickup. Then the Window Broke.

> **[Tesla Unveiled a Bulletproof Pickup. Then the Window Broke.](https://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-unveiled-a-bullet-proof-pickup-then-the-window-broke-11574444427?mod=hp_lead_pos6)**
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> Elon Musk embraced unorthodox design choices with Tesla’s all-electric pickup to wow truck buyers and help differentiate it. But the features he is promising could dent the commercial prospects of the vehicle Mr. Musk has dubbed Cybertruck.

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