# Please explain Kigurumi to me (not really TMI, but definitely weird)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 6, 2005, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143 "2005-06-06T16:22:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@Alias](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alias)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2005, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/1 "2005-06-06T16:22:39Z")

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I know a guy who dresses up as female anime characters every night for the enjoyment of others on a webcam. He chats with these people, sends them pictures, even strips :eek: occasionally for them. He wears a full-body leotard, complete with hands and feet, a mask and a wig. It’s beyond creepy to me.  
Can someone tell me what this whole cosplay/kigurumi thing is? Is it sexual? From what I’ve read, some of it is perfectly innocent, but I’ve found that a lot of people have websites with quite adult themes behind them where they act out fantasies, strip, and engage in cyber sex as the character.  
[Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kigurumi) has a small entry about it (entirely work-safe, by the way), but it doesn’t really shed much light on the motives behind it.

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2005, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/2 "2005-06-06T17:33:36Z")

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I know nothing about the subject, but it seems to me that simply by reading the wikipedia entry on [crossdressing](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossdress) , things would be cleared up for you. So these people cosplay as Lum, rather then Marilyn Monroe, so what? It appears to be the same thing.

P.S. Ok, so it involves masks, rather then using wigs, blush, and shadow, to feminize the features. Still, same difference.

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**Author:** ![Alias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@Alias](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alias)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/3 "2005-06-06T18:41:14Z")

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I considered it being related to transvestism, but not all of them dress as the opposite sex. Still, cross-dressing seems to be a likely answer. Anyone else?

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/4 "2005-06-06T20:22:51Z")

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In the Tokugawa Era, men and women were forbidden to act together, so a tradition of men dressing as women was born… 😛

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2005, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/5 "2005-06-06T21:36:34Z")

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Does he get paid for these sessions? Would he dress up like this on his own, or has he simply found an economic niche on the internet that he’s willing to exploit? Do his customers know he’s a guy? Is that part of his draw?

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2005, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/6 "2005-06-06T21:46:30Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Do his customers know he’s a guy? Is that part of his draw?

> [@the OP](#):
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> even strips :eek: occasionally for them. .

If they wanted to see a girl dressed as an anime character, they would look for one.

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**Author:** ![Alias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@Alias](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alias)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/7 "2005-06-07T00:21:14Z")

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He is not being paid for these sessions. He is chatting with people via webcam and posing as an anime girl for free, probably because he’s getting something out of it too. I’m not sure if they know he’s male or female. He doesn’t know I know about his hobby, so I can’t discuss it with him. I found out sort of by accident, and I searched a bit and found his anime girl website and blog.

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**Author:** ![Alias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@Alias](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alias)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/8 "2005-06-07T00:22:36Z")

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By the way, when I say he strips for them, I mean that he strips down to the unitard with bra and panties.

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**Author:** ![elfbabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b782af/32.png) [@elfbabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfbabe)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/9 "2005-06-07T02:29:14Z")

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Humans are really, _really_ weird.

There you go, that explains it. 😃

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/10 "2005-06-07T04:55:34Z")

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I believe this is related to tranvesitism, or cross-dressing for sexual pleasure. Yes, it’s a bit strange, but there are far kinkier and crazier things. From what you’ve described, it seems like he is pretending to be a female anime girl and then putting on shows for people. Some of these people are transgendered individuals who haven’t come to terms with themselves, but most are normal heterosexuals males. There are a variety of reasons people do this. For some, taking on a female role is liberating, others get turned on by the idea of ‘tricking’ men into desiring them, others just enjoy the attention and feel that they are sexier as a woman, etc. Kigurumi is popular because it is annoymous. Anyone can do it and be sexual without revealing their true selves or indentity unless they are careless or wish others to know. Kigurumi is related to “dollers,” people who dress up and act like dolls or who are attracted to such people. A google search will reveal websites with plenty of pictures although some are not work safe.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/11 "2005-06-07T17:18:03Z")

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I think, though not really sure, that most cos-play is about the level of people dressing up like Sci-fi characters for a convention. They just do cartoon characters which pose some problems as to how to defy the laws of nature to get the hair or the clothes to look right.

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**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/12 "2005-06-07T17:26:15Z")

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How does one explain a socially retarded, cave-dwelling, badly-in-need of a date geek?

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**Author:** ![Alias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@Alias](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alias)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/13 "2005-06-07T17:34:30Z")

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> [@plnnr](#):
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> How does one explain a socially retarded, cave-dwelling, badly-in-need of a date geek?

Wow plnnr! That was amazing! Do you know him? 😉

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**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/14 "2005-06-07T17:39:35Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> I think, though not really sure, that most cos-play is about the level of people dressing up like Sci-fi characters for a convention. They just do cartoon characters which pose some problems as to how to defy the laws of nature to get the hair or the clothes to look right.

Cosplay is short for “costume play” and refers to anyone dressing up like a character from any sort of book, tv show, movie, play, etc. Cosplay apparently first became big at Star Trek conventions and has since spread across the world, becoming especially popular in Japan. Cosplayers do so for various reasons: Some are wanna be fashion designers who enjoy the challenge of bringing outfits from anime or manga to life. Others are skilled (and not so skilled) seamstresses who enjoy displaying their talent and skill. Some people buy outfits or have their friends make them and still enjoy cosplaying. For them it’s mostly them having fun dressing up as an admired character and you will see a lot of people ‘role-playing’ at conventions. Cross-play is when people dress up as opposite sex characters. This is done for a variety of reasons, including some sexual, although most individuals you see cross-playing at cons don’t do so for sexual reasons.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/15 "2005-06-07T17:47:04Z")

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“The universe is not only stranger than you imagine; it is stranger than you _can_ imagine.” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/16 "2005-06-07T19:25:06Z")

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I thought cosplay refered specifically to anime costumes, while people dressed as Star Trek characters were just plain geeks.

While what this guy is doing is just off the charts but still the guys watching him are maybe a little bit stranger.  
So **kimera** , what characters have you dressed up as?

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**Author:** ![Wooge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@Wooge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wooge)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-kigurumi-to-me-not-really-tmi-but-definitely-weird/307143/17 "2011-03-04T19:44:10Z")

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“Kigurumi” is a Japanese hybrid word basically meaning a stuffed toy that you wear. Just like you get lots of different stuffed toys, it can sometimes mean dressing up as a sexy manga character, but often is used to refer to all in one animal costumes. For example see this[Animal Costumes](http://www.animalcostumesshop.co.uk) site.
