# Please explain Lauren Boebert

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 15, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163 "2023-09-15T14:41:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/381 "2024-03-15T18:32:09Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> I think the idiots like Boebert _are_ sincere, insofar as they (like their followers) believe that there are simple, forceful solutions to every problem if the Deep State would just get the fuck out of the way. But since the Deep State is so well-entrenched, their #1 job now is to destroy it – and in their minds, that amounts to subverting democracy and “normal” society however possible. That’s what they’re “accomplishing.”

Boebert, _et al_., may well believe that. What they don’t realize is that what they call “the Deep State”, the rest of us call “the consent of the governed”.

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/382 "2024-03-15T18:46:54Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> My question, and going back to the subject of this thread, is does Boebert or any of the MAGA politicians (supporters are a very different story) believe their own propaganda. Because I don’t think most of them do - they see it as their shot at money, fame and power, but I see damn all evidence that they’re sincere in any way at all, or they’d be working more towards actually acomplishing something, even if that thing is totally negative by my and others POV.

IMO there are two flavors of MAGA faithful. Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz are in the “vile opportunists without principles” camp. They are certainly way right, but from everything I’ve read, they are both scary smart. I don’t think for a second that either believed there was a damn thing wrong with the last presidential election, as one example. Everything is a political calculation for this tribe, and there is no principled line they wouldn’t cross. I’d put Matt Gaetz in this group.

Then there’s the dangerous idiot tribe: Gohmert, Boebert, MTG, etc. I think they believe the bullshit they spout—the Jewish space lasers, etc.—but in a very specific way: what is factual doesn’t really matter, the only important thing is that it’s consistent with the MAGA orthodoxy.

Proof that some nonsense they asserted is false wouldn’t lead to any reflection or embarrassment. It would produce a “Whatever” and a shrug. What _should_ be true according to their depraved philosophy _is_ true in the only important sense.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/383 "2024-03-15T18:48:32Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> This is how I defined “sincere” – they truly believe the crap they say. They are actually stupid enough to be sincere in these beliefs.

Hmmm. There are probably degrees of stupidity among the FC caucus, granted. Boebert absolutely falls on the stupid side of the group, with MTG being (entirely IMHO of course) slightly smarter (no great leap there though), and both being quite a distance from Gaetz who I absolutely believe is full on troll not believing any of it.

Whiiiiiich, leads us back to part of the appeal of Boebert. Probably even her supporters think she’s no _better_ or _smarter_ than them, so it warms the cockles of their hearts to have one of their own dealing with them smarty-pants gubbmint folks. Of course, that means she gets nothing done, but the pull of the tribe (ONE OF US, ONE OF US) is strong.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/384 "2024-03-15T18:55:45Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> It has been mentioned in this thread that CO state law does not allow a sitting member of Congress to run in a special election for a seat in a different district without resigning the seat they currently occupy.

The Ron Filipkowski article cited by @Fear_Itself says that, “it appears that” she would have to resign her seat to run in the special, but he provides no cite for that under Colorado or federal law. It’s certainly not in the Colorado special election statute.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/385 "2024-03-15T19:27:56Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> Gohmert, Boebert, MTG, etc. I think they believe the bullshit they spout—the Jewish space lasers, etc.—but in a very specific way: what is factual doesn’t really matter, the only important thing is that it’s consistent with the MAGA orthodoxy.

Or as MTG says when asked about the Jewish space lasers “Fuck Off”.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/386 "2024-03-15T19:34:02Z")

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> [@Stratocaster](#):
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> I think they believe the bullshit they spout—the Jewish space lasers, etc.—but in a very specific way: what is factual doesn’t really matter, the only important thing is that it’s consistent with the MAGA orthodoxy.

This is more or less how I think about it. There is a huge subset of people to whom “true” and “false” don’t mean, “matches/does not match objective reality”. For them, “true” means “When espousing this belief, I get social approval from people I respect and/or get scorn from people I don’t” and “false” means the opposite.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/387 "2024-03-15T19:34:46Z")

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I was surprised MTG forgot to add ‘goy’ to the “Fuck Off”.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/388 "2024-03-15T22:18:41Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> She’s already in Congress and can’t serve in two places.

That’s obvious, but why can’t she run then resign her old seat _if she wins_.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/389 "2024-03-16T01:28:27Z")

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We are almost there. She does not get a congressional for her days in the trailer park, unless she serves two terms.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/390 "2024-03-16T04:11:43Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> but why can’t she run then resign her old seat _if she wins_.

Different states have different laws. I have zero info about CO specifically.

In at least some states you must resign your current elected position before filing to run for another position.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/391 "2024-03-16T05:33:03Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Different states have different laws. I have zero info about CO specifically.

I thought states could not add to qualifications to running for the House beyond those in the Constitution.

In Colorado, a special party convention of members in the district vote and submit one name to the Secretary of State to run in the special election. There is no requirement to resign if you are already a House member to be nominated by the party. If anyone in the thread thinks I’m wrong, please cite the law in Colorado Revised Statutes saying Boebert has to resign.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/392 "2024-03-17T18:18:37Z")

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Barack Obama was a sitting Senator when he ran for President. He resigned as Senator only after winning the November 2008 election; Roland Burris was appointed to replace Obama by Governor Rod Blagojevich in January 2009.

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/393 "2024-03-17T19:28:51Z")

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This is the first I’ve heard of Rep. Bobert’s presidential run. Is anyone going to tell her that the primaries are chugging along, and that super tuesday is in the past?

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/394 "2024-03-25T04:30:40Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Is anyone going to tell her that the primaries are chugging along, and that super tuesday is in the past?

I don’t know.

Do people actually talk to this sex offender, drug abuser, and disturber of the peace IRL?

Some deadbeat rock ho giving out handies under a bridge, blasting away at full voice during somebody else’s live performance?

Maybe some people get the government they deserve.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/395 "2024-03-25T04:52:13Z")

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> [@ColdBrew50](#):
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> Do people actually talk to this sex offender, drug abuser, and disturber of the peace IRL?

No.

> **['Funeral for her own career': Lauren Boebert mocked for 'sad turn out' at...](https://www.rawstory.com/boebert-mocked-crowd-size/)**
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> Colorado Republican Congresswoman Lauren Boebert became the subject of mockery this weekend as social media users made jokes about the lawmaker's apparently sparse crowd at a speaking event in her state.Boebert, who earlier in the month was ridiculed...

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/396 "2024-03-25T05:01:12Z")

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Do a search on the hat she sells. It uses a pistol for the “L” in Lauren.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/397 "2024-03-25T14:21:01Z")

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Love to see it, but also depressing that modern reporting is now just stringing together tweets and calling it an article.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/398 "2024-03-25T15:04:13Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> I’m not sure whether they call it that but I’ve also heard similar Uniparty rhetoric from the far left.

More often I see Democrats being categorized as “center right” rather than part of the same undifferentiable group, although the latter happens sometimes.

Now, most of the time it is either myopic thinking, in the former case, or lazy thinking in the latter. But just recently I saw someone who had to work hard to make it even stupider. They claimed that the Democrats are center right because, amongst other things, they “support trickle-down economics”.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/399 "2024-03-25T19:10:20Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> They claimed that the Democrats are center right because, amongst other things, they “support trickle-down economics”.

There are certainly raging leftists who think that anything less than closing all the commercial banks and nationalizing all their assets constitutes unconditional support for Wall Street and trickle down economics.

Those persons would be a) stupid, and b) factually wrong. But at least some of them are c) sincere in their bleatings.

As with the right, sincerity is not a measure of the validity of your argument or your facts. It may be a measure of your wisdom or of your gullibility depending on what you embrace.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2024, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-lauren-boebert/990163/400 "2024-03-29T05:54:05Z")

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The Colorado Republican party has selected Greg Lopez as their candidate for the special congressional election, however, he will not be running in the Republican primary to be the candidate in November. Assuming he wins the seat in June, which is all but guaranteed, he will serve until the winner of the Republican primary wins the November election, and then takes over.

This still leaves Boebert a path to stay in congress. She needs to win the Republican primary, but that was always the case whether Buck left early or finished out his term.

> **[Greg Lopez selected as Republican nominee for special election in Colorado's...](https://coloradosun.com/2024/03/28/greg-lopez-ken-buck-colorado-4th-district-lauren-boebert/)**
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> Lopez is the former mayor of Parker. He lost two Republican gubernatorial primaries in Colorado and has a history of run-ins with law enforcement.

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