# Please explain "The Draft"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-the-draft/47728>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 29, 2000, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-the-draft/47728 "2000-12-29T22:20:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![DRY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@DRY](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DRY)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2000, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-the-draft/47728/21 "2000-12-31T11:46:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dignan \*  
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> > I wasn’t aware that Scott Boras worked for Baseball America.
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> > Like him or hate him, I think he understands the draft as well as anyone.
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> I think that should read: “he understands how to _manipulate_ the draft _better_ than anyone.” I agree that he does do his job very well and gets very good deals for his clients, I don’t know if that’s a good thing for the sport though.  
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Trust me, nothing in my post was meant to imply that Boras was good for the sport. It’s obvious he’s good for his clients.

I do believe that Boras understands the draft as well as anyone, AND how to manipulate it better than anyone. I imagine that knowing the former is important, if not crucial, to knowing the latter.

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**Author:** ![kpm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c57346/32.png) [@kpm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kpm)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2000, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-the-draft/47728/22 "2000-12-31T16:13:52Z")

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Landon Powell played baseball for my local high school - Apex High in NC. His father is supposed to be a total jerk so it is no surprise he was dealing with Boras. He even made his son repeat 6th grade just so he could be bigger when he got to HS. (his grades were fine) Powell is going to play college baseball at South Carolina starting in February. No MLB team made him a good enough offer so the loophole Boras found did not work. BTW Boras was not officially an agent but an “advisor” so the kid can still play in college.

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**Author:** ![yabob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yabob/32/2821_2.png) [@yabob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yabob)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2000, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-the-draft/47728/23 "2000-12-31T16:41:53Z")

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Dignan sez, regarding Chris Weinke:

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> I’ve had a thread in the pit that no one seemed to agree with me that it was ridiculous for him to win the Heisman, but anyway . . . Mel Kiper, Jr. (same guy I mentioned above) said he’s probably a third round pick, take that for what it’s worth.

I saw the thread, and I disagree with you too. And you were somewhat more hyperbolic than just saying it was ridiculous - I think you referred to him as a “fucking geriatric” at one point. At any rate, would third round be particularly unusual, or have Heisman winners been this discounted in the past? Weinke is an interesting story, but I really wonder what NFL teams are thinking about the fact that he’ll be 29 in his rookie year.

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**Author:** ![Ankh\_Too](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Ankh\_Too](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ankh_Too)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2001, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-the-draft/47728/24 "2001-01-01T01:23:41Z")

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Here’s a [list](http://www.austin360.com/sports/hookem/stories/1999/04/17heismandraft.html#table) of the recent Heisman History of all the winners who were not chosen in the first round:

1983 - Hershel Walker - Fifth Round  
1984 - Doug Flutie - Eleventh Round  
1985 - Bo Jackson - Seventh Round  
1990 - Ty Detmer - Seventh Round  
1992 - Gino Toretta - Ninth Round  
1993 - Charlie Ward - Was Not Drafted _(and has already been mentioned)_  
1996 - Danny Wuerffel - Fourth Round

So, a third round would not be beyond the pale as far as Heisman winner goes.

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**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2001, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-the-draft/47728/25 "2001-01-01T07:06:17Z")

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> My alma mater, the University of Kentucky, produced a “Mr. Irrelevant” a few years ago, linebacker Marty Moore.

Marty Moore is still in the league, playing for the Browns. Two Bill Curry recruits on the same team! Whatta Coach that guy was!

GO BIG BLUE! sheesh.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2001, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-the-draft/47728/26 "2001-01-01T10:22:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Frankd6 \*  
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> > My alma mater, the University of Kentucky, produced a “Mr. Irrelevant” a few years ago, linebacker Marty Moore.
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> Marty Moore is still in the league, playing for the Browns. Two Bill Curry recruits on the same team! Whatta Coach that guy was!
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> GO BIG BLUE! sheesh. \*\*

I remember how Kentucky would’ve won the Peach Bowl a few years ago if Marty Moore had a little sense. He makes a late interception against Clemson, but instead of immediately dropping to the ground so the Wildcats can run out the clock, he feels the need to try to return it. He fumbles it BACK to Clemson, who scores the winning touchdown a couple of plays later.

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