# Please explain this poker chip question

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 10, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485 "2004-10-10T17:42:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/41 "2004-10-13T19:19:27Z")

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> [@Maus Magill](#):
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> This Texas Hold-em crap reminds me of playing in fifth grade when every other frappin’ card was wild.
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> Real poker = 5 card stud.

Shhh! Don’t tell him about Omaha high-low.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/42 "2004-10-13T19:23:21Z")

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> [@Dag Otto](#):
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> Shhh! Don’t tell him about Omaha high-low.

What about one-eyed Witchita fizzbin?

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/43 "2004-10-13T20:07:56Z")

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“One-eyed jacks and dueces are wild and I don’t know if I’m winnin’ or losin’ this godamned dumb game!”

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/44 "2004-10-13T21:28:52Z")

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> [@Dag Otto](#):
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> Slight correction: In 6-card stud ‘two three-of-a-kinds’ is called a ‘Full House Royale’

(Insert your own _Pulp Fiction_ joke here)

Seriously, people really play 6-card stud?

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/45 "2004-10-13T22:21:35Z")

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I thought 6-card stud was like 7-card stud except with only one hole card; i.e. each player tried to make the best 5-card hand with the 6 cards he/she was dealt.

Does 6-card stud really use all 6 cards to make a hand, so that 3 pair and a 6-card straight flush are possible?

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2004, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/46 "2004-10-13T23:09:51Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> I thought 6-card stud was like 7-card stud except with only one hole card; i.e. each player tried to make the best 5-card hand with the 6 cards he/she was dealt.
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> Does 6-card stud really use all 6 cards to make a hand, so that 3 pair and a 6-card straight flush are possible?

Oh, yes. Nothing like having your quad aces busted by quad threes with a pair kicker. :rolleyes:

I’ve never heard of 6 card stud. I suppose you could do it at home if you wanted to have more than seven players playing 7 card stud, but even then you would want to stick with 5 card hands to keep the arguements down (“No, a six card flush beats three pair” “Does not!” “Does too!”). Never in a card room or casino.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/47 "2004-10-14T05:13:42Z")

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> [@kittenblue](#):
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> I took a closer look at the plactic chips in the set we sell, and they aren’t the real cheap plastic chips with serrated edges…they are heavier and better looking. But I can’t open a sleeve up and go weigh one on Godiva’s scale, so the weight remains a mystery. But as soon as some bratty kid rips a sleeve open…

Weigh the sleeveful and divide by the number of chips it contains.

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**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/48 "2004-10-14T06:43:18Z")

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Now that this has become a general poker hijack I wanted to share something that didn’t rate its own thread, Now I know that given the millions of hands dealt online you will see most everyting eventually, but this was rather extraordinary.

\*\*\*\*\* Hand History for Game 1039563516 \*\*\*\*\*  
50/100 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 6380808) - Sat Oct 09 12:23:47 EDT 2004  
Table Table 11046 (Real Money) – Seat 2 is the button  
Total number of players : 7  
Seat 1: Three\_Chip (745)  
Seat 2: marco40 (415)  
Seat 3: deadbydawn13 (825)  
Seat 5: saewty (1080)  
Seat 7: wdcbooks (1420)  
Seat 8: smokinmunges (2220)  
Seat 10: melch1 (1295)  
deadbydawn13 posts small blind (25)  
saewty posts big blind (50)  
\*\* Dealing down cards \*\*  
Dealt to wdcbooks [9h, Jh]  
wdcbooks calls (50)  
smokinmunges calls (50)  
melch1 folds.  
Three\_Chip folds.  
marco40 calls (50)  
deadbydawn13 folds.  
saewty checks.  
\*\* Dealing Flop \*\* : [Th, Qh, 8h]  
saewty bets (50)  
wdcbooks calls (50)  
smokinmunges folds.  
marco40 folds.  
\*\* Dealing Turn \*\* : [6h]  
saewty bets (375)  
wdcbooks raises (1320) to 1320  
wdcbooks is all-In.  
saewty calls (605)  
saewty is all-In.  
\*\* Dealing River \*\* : [7h]  
Creating Main Pot with $2285 with saewty  
Creating Side Pot 1 with $340 with wdcbooks  
\*\* Summary \*\*  
Main Pot: 2285 | Side Pot 1: 340  
Board: [Th Qh 8h 6h 7h]  
Three\_Chip balance 745, didn’t bet (folded)  
marco40 balance 365, lost 50 (folded)  
deadbydawn13 balance 800, lost 25 (folded)  
saewty balance 0, lost 1080 [4d Kh] [a flush, king high – Kh,Qh,Th,8h,7h]  
wdcbooks balance 2625, bet 1420, collected 2625, net +1205 [9h Jh] [a straight flush, queen high – Qh,Jh,Th,9h,8h]  
smokinmunges balance 2170, lost 50 (folded)  
melch1 balance 1295, didn’t bet (folded)

Not only did I make the seven card straight flush, but if you count the other guy we made eight cards to the straight flush. Next day I flopped a royal.

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**Author:** ![Waccoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Waccoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waccoe)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/49 "2004-10-14T07:53:58Z")

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Bad luck that smokinmunges didn’t get the King.

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**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/50 "2004-10-14T16:08:43Z")

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> [@Dag Otto](#):
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> Shhh! Don’t tell him about Omaha high-low.

No game, not even Guts, makes me want to drink bleach more than Omaha. What sadistic bastard invented this? Trips in the hole! Yay! Except you can’t actually play them all, sucker!

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/51 "2004-10-14T17:49:34Z")

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> [@Dag Otto](#):
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> Slight correction: In 6-card stud ‘two three-of-a-kinds’ is called a ‘Full House Royale’

Then, later in this thread:

> [@Dag Otto](#):
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> I’ve never heard of 6 card stud.

Color me 😕 .

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/52 "2004-10-14T19:08:48Z")

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> [@JSexton](#):
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> No game, not even Guts, makes me want to drink bleach more than Omaha. What sadistic bastard invented this? Trips in the hole! Yay! Except you can’t actually play them all, sucker!

I actually like playing Omaha hi-lo but I would _never_ play it for any serious money. I play online for play money sometimes and lose bundles and bundles. Just for fun I stopped in at a real money table last week and after 45 minutes I was up 15 cents. I got the hell out and counted myself lucky.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/53 "2004-10-14T19:29:14Z")

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> [@Uncommon Sense](#):
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> “One-eyed jacks and dueces are wild and I don’t know if I’m winnin’ or losin’ this godamned dumb game!”

That’s _exactly_ why people call those games! When you throw in oddball stuff (ever play three-card hold-'em where you have to discard a hole card after the flop?) and wild cards, everyone who can’t think on their feet gets slaughtered. They either drop out after the ante (thus donating their ante to the pot), or stay in and don’t know what they’re doing.

I like playing straight poker, but I when I’m playing with people who can’t figure things out on the fly, those wild cards and things give me quite an edge.

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**Author:** ![Hooleehootoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eada6e/32.png) [@Hooleehootoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hooleehootoo)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/54 "2004-10-14T22:21:32Z")

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If you live near a casino that has live poker, you can get racks of their chips to use in your home game. They are high quality, and you can return them for the purchace price, even without a recipt 🙂 You lose the interest on the $100-200 for the time you have them, but this is less than purchase price for your own chips. You also have the risk that the casino will change chips and stop accepting the old ones before you return them, but it is my belief that casinos must give many months notice before doing something like this.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/55 "2004-10-14T22:50:49Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> Color me 😕 .

I just jokingly used ‘Full House Royale’ as a fancy name for a hand that isn’t a real poker hand.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2004, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-explain-this-poker-chip-question/268485/56 "2004-10-15T00:24:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> > Originally Posted by Uncommon Sense  
> > “One-eyed jacks and dueces are wild and I don’t know if I’m winnin’ or losin’ this godamned dumb game!”
> 
> That’s exactly why people call those games! When you throw in oddball stuff (ever play three-card hold-'em where you have to discard a hole card after the flop?) and wild cards, everyone who can’t think on their feet gets slaughtered. They either drop out after the ante (thus donating their ante to the pot), or stay in and don’t know what they’re doing.

I hate the oddball stuff too. I like five card draw for playing among friends at a small table.

I’m suprised no one picked up that the original quote was from a movie, Madelyn Kahn was the dealer and her kidnappers were getting their asses handed to them because she had conjured up all these cheesy wild card games.

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