# Please help ID this sea creature!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 6, 2004, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777 "2004-07-06T13:05:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777/21 "2004-07-07T18:06:17Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> If a little worm or leech keeps you out of the water, how do you feel knowing [this guy](http://www.whozoo.org/Anlife2001/chelsy/clh_Bathynomus.htm) is swimming around there too.
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> Just so you know, they can reach 18" long 😉

Are they related to wood lice?

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777/22 "2004-07-07T18:15:45Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> If a little worm or leech keeps you out of the water, how do you feel knowing [this guy](http://www.whozoo.org/Anlife2001/chelsy/clh_Bathynomus.htm) is swimming around there too.
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> Just so you know, they can reach 18" long 😉

Didn’t I see those in _Godzilla:1985_ ?

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777/23 "2004-07-07T18:19:47Z")

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From Kevin James (King of Queens) Stand up…re: Water Skiing…just bobbing up and down in the water…waiting with your feet just dangling…  
“…I learned one thing sitting out there with the skis on waiting for the boat to come back, and that is that I have the same reaction whether my feet touch seaweed or a great white shark…”

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777/24 "2004-07-07T18:19:59Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> If a little worm or leech keeps you out of the water, how do you feel knowing [this guy](http://www.whozoo.org/Anlife2001/chelsy/clh_Bathynomus.htm) is swimming around there too.
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> Just so you know, they can reach 18" long 😉

Looks like one of those baddies from _The Dark Crystal_.

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777/25 "2004-07-07T18:21:58Z")

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> [@+MDI](#):
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> Are they related to wood lice?

Actually, yes. Go click on the “Are lobsters insects” thread for more info on these and other fine arthropods!

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777/26 "2004-07-07T18:29:47Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Looks like one of those baddies from _The Dark Crystal_.

Those would be the Garthem. These great, clawed, crustacean/insectoid things were the soldiers and slaves of the vulture-like Skeksis.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777/27 "2004-07-07T18:36:48Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> Bah. You think those are pelagic horrors?
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> [The goblin shark](http://www.greengoblin.com/internal/corner/shark.html)
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> [The viperfish](http://www.imagequest3d.com/cgi-bin/ImageFolio3/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=aquatic/chordata/osteichthyes&image=JNM00015.jpg&img=0&search=deepdea%21%20ZXC001&cat=aquatic&tt=&bool=or)
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> Remember that no matter how brightly the sun is shining on the shore, not far out and not that deep there is eternal and limitless darkness.

This post has given me a new vocabulary word, yet stolen my peace of mind. Is this a bargain? 😕

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777/28 "2004-07-07T19:48:16Z")

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Bah, the viperfish and goblin shark pale beside the kraken. Myth you say?

[Here](http://is.dal.ca/~ceph/TCP/Archi.html) [be](http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/accounts/information/Architeuthis_dux.html) [monsters](http://tolweb.org/tree?group=Mesonychoteuthis_hamiltoni&contgroup=Cranchiidae)

Note that the individuals pictured are likely not full grown adults. We can discern this by the fact that they measure less than 60 feet from the tip of the 2 long tentacles to the end of their cones.

Note also that the last link is to the mesonychoteuthis. The mesonychoteuthis is bigger and meaner. It’s tentacles are equipped with swivelling hooks rather than suction disks.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2004, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-id-this-sea-creature/253777/29 "2004-07-07T22:17:34Z")

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Ack!, won´t somebody link a picuture of Flipper? Between the lobster thread and this one I´m starting to freak out. :eek:

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