# Please help me confirm or deny this 'list of vaccine ingredients'

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**Created:** [October 29, 2009, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599 "2009-10-29T14:01:46Z")\
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I got this ‘[list of ingredients](http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fgview%3Fa%3Dv%26q%3Dcache%3AbMd3YsjLy-cJ%3Awww.childhoodshots.com%2Fuploads%2FSwineFLuVaccineFactSheet.pdf%2Bh1n1%2Bingredients%2Bpdf%26hl%3Den%26gl%3Dca%26pid%3Dbl%26srcid%3DADGEESiq4KmrePPujCBs_6zQpxWy4eGoiknMTF86q4IA67hJVV65Tv9Y6YTlxsDfO-8L-Lc7Jm6tyowD02bbiDMdAmY1zAmJgRMJS5Vmb88y5ezCIQydXuOhBhZg4jjOpMIKcpeQJrSW%26sig%3DAFQjCNFa8R7lOgyLAy_EmdYSN-vTj5T4CQ&h=15692ca7830f9adbb25c23effd822bed)’ for the Swine Flu Vaccine from a friend today. My gut instinct is that this is a piece of propaganda from the anti-vaccination gang, but I want to prove it.

Is there a verified list of ingredients available, or some information confirming or denying the list in that link? I’m certain that there are medically educated Dopers who can help me out.

Any help appreciated.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
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There’s something wrong with the link. It requires some sort of special permission to view.

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**Author:** ![BrandonR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@BrandonR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrandonR)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/3 "2009-10-29T14:34:10Z")

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I believe a working URL is here: [http://childhoodshots.com/uploads/SwineFLuVaccineFactSheet.pdf](http://childhoodshots.com/uploads/SwineFLuVaccineFactSheet.pdf)

Looking at the base website ([childhoodshots.com](http://childhoodshots.com)), it appears to be yet another anti-vaccine nutter who just enough braincells to create a crappy website…

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/4 "2009-10-29T14:39:51Z")

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Doesn’t look too evil from here.  
I suppose some might bitch about thimerosol and [squalene](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squalene) suffers from a nasty sounding name.  
Still, the listing of ‘aborted baby tissue’ looks like some sort of hyped up nontruth designed to scare off evangelicals and catholics, so as to have more of _their_ kids die.  
That being the case, I’d look to a less agenda driven reference for my information.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
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> [@Squink](#):
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> I suppose some might bitch about thimerosol and [squalene](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squalene) suffers from a nasty sounding name.

And thimerosol is used in “multi-vile vaccine!” VILE!!

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/6 "2009-10-29T14:43:02Z")

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Here is the list per [flu.gov](http://answers.flu.gov/questions/4801) - that page has the H1N1 vaccines at the bottom:

> [@](#):
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> Sanofi Pasteur 2009 Monovalent Vaccine (Shot)
> 
> Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is formulated to contain 15 mcg hemagglutinin (HA) of influenza A/California/07/2009 (H1N1) v-like virus per 0.5 mL dose. Gelatin 0.05% is added as a stabilizer. Each 0.5 mL dose may contain residual amounts of formaldehyde (not more than 100 mcg), polyethylene glycol p-isooctylphenyl ether (not more than 0.02%), and sucrose (not more than 2.0%).
> 
> There is no thimerosal used in the manufacturing process of the single-dose presentations of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine. The multi-dose presentation of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine contains thimerosal, a mercury derivative, added as a preservative. Each 0.5 mL dose of the multidose presentation contains 25 mcg mercury.
> 
> Antibiotics are not used in the manufacture of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine.
> 
> All presentations of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine do not contain latex.
> 
> For detailed information, see Sanofi Pasteur 2009 Monovalent Vaccine Patient Information (PDF-19 pages)
> 
> MedImmune 2009 Monovalent Vaccine (Spray)
> 
> Each pre-filled refrigerated Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine Live, Intranasal sprayer contains a single 0.2 mL dose. Each 0.2 mL dose contains 106.5-7.5 FFU of the live attenuated influenza virus reassortant of the pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus: A/California/7/2009 (H1N1)v. Each 0.2 mL dose also contains 0.188 mg/dose monosodium glutamate, 2.00 mg/dose hydrolyzed porcine gelatin, 2.42 mg/dose arginine, 13.68 mg/dose sucrose, 2.26 mg/dose dibasic potassium phosphate, 0.96 mg/dose monobasic potassium phosphate, and \<0.015 mcg/mL gentamicin sulfate. The vaccine contains no preservatives.
> 
> For detailed information, see MedImmune 2009 Monovalent Vaccine (Spray)Patient Information (PDF – 21 pages).

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
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Interesting - the link works fine for me, but I think there’s some odd FaceBook privacy thing going on.

I haven’t found that specific link on the root website, but the bottom line is that it is a website run by Mary Tocco, manure spreader extraordinaire.

The specifics of the link in question:

> [@](#):
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> H1N1 Swine Flu Vaccine Facts to Consider  
> In order to make informed vaccine decisions, you must know what the  
> ingredients are in the vaccine. There are no long-term safety studies done  
> on any vaccines, including the flu vaccines. This new flu vaccine will be  
> released without adequate safety studies.  
> Common Flu Vaccine Ingredients include:  
>  Egg protein, many are allergic to eggs  
>  Formaldehyde- Formalyn (formalin) is a 37 percent solution of  
> gaseous formaldehyde which includes methanol. (Used in vaccines  
> as a tissue fixative) Formaldehyde solution (formalin) is considered a  
> hazardous compound and it is vapor toxic.  
>  Polysorbate 80 shown to cause infertility in mice  
>  Sodium Chloride and Calcium Chloride  
>  Monosodium Glutamate (MSG):C5H8NNaO4, a Stabilizer MSG -  
> MSG intolerance: There have been numerous studies of allergies  
> and/or sensitivities to MSG, attributed to the free glutamic acid  
> component, which has been blamed for causing a wide variety of  
> physical symptoms such as migraines, nausea, digestive upsets,  
> drowsiness, heart palpitation, hair loss, asthma, anaphylactic shock,  
> rapidly increasing diabetes, and many other complaints.  
>  Potassium phosphate- a soluble salt which is used as a fertilizer, a  
> food additive and a fungicide. It is a source of phosphorus and  
> potassium. It is also a buffering agent.  
>  Thimerosal- a form of mercury still found in some multi-vile vaccines.  
>  Polyoxidonium- Synthetic polymers and nanomaterials display  
> selective phenotypic effects in cells and in the body that affect signal  
> transduction mechanisms involved in inflammation, differentiation,  
> proliferation, and apoptosis. When physically mixed or covalently  
> conjugated with cytotoxic agents, bacterial DNA or antigens,  
> polymers can drastically alter specific genetically controlled  
> responses to these agents.  
>  Squalene- An oil based adjuvant that has never been approved in the  
> US as safe, can cause blindness, autoimmune dysfunction and can  
> inhibit sperm production. More than two dozen peer-reviewed  
> scientific papers from ten different laboratories throughout the U.S.,  
> Europe, Asia, and Australia have been published documenting the  
> development of autoimmune disease in animals subjected to  
> squalene-based adjuvants. Novartis will make a flu vaccine using  
> MF59 consisting of Squalene, Tween 80 - A recent study (December  
> 2005) discovered that Tween80 can cause anaphylaxis, a sometimes  
> fatal reaction characterized by a sharp drop in blood pressure, hives,  
> and breathing difficulties.  
>  Span85 another oil  
>  Human Diploid Tissue- organ and tissue from aborted baby tissue is  
> now used in manufacturing many vaccines.  
>  Vaccines given in the past have contained H1N1 viruses; this is not a  
> new virus. ([novaccine.com](http://novaccine.com))  
> For complete ingredient list go to  
> World Association of Vaccine Education (WAVE)  
> [www.novaccine.com](http://www.novaccine.com)

All of it looks like a steaming pile of nonsense to me, but rather than just say “No, you’re full of shit.”, I’d rather say “No, you’re full of shit and here’s why.”

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/8 "2009-10-29T14:52:01Z")

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Well, not to terrify you, but yes, the swine flu vaccine does contain sodium chloride, a common ingredient in many pesticides, and which has been proven to be [toxic](http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC34362#Symptoms) to many different species of animals.

As far as some of the rest of it -  
[ul][li]Egg protein - True. The CDC recommends that those who are allergic to eggs not receive the standard flu vaccination.[/li][li]Squalene -[False.](http://www.newsweek.com/id/218513) [/li][li]Thimerosol - The single dose version does not contain thimerosol. The multi-dose version does. The amounts are extremely small, and there is no good evidence linking this ingredient to any disorders. [/li][li]Polysorbate 80 - this is the same thing as Tween 80 ([cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polysorbate_80)), so whoever wrote the Facebook thing you cited does not know what he or she is talking about (obviously). The study mentioned was on rats, not mice (a different species), lowered birthweight, not infertility, and the dose was 16 ml/kg bodyweight/day. The equivalent would be for a pregnant woman weighing 132 pounds to be given about a quart of Polysorbate 80 every day for three weeks. Compare that to the amount received in the typical flu vaccine, and judge for yourself if the risk seems excessive (assuming that the risk is the same for humans as for rats).[/li][/ul]  
That’s as far as I got before running out of patience. Your gut instinct is, AFAICT, correct - this is vaccine scare propaganda.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Rhodes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhodes/32/273_2.png) [@Rhodes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhodes)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/9 "2009-10-29T14:53:09Z")

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Sodium Chloride? Good Gawd, we’re all gonna die!

If that doesn’t kill us all off, then maybe they’ll lace it with dihydrogen monoxide.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/10 "2009-10-29T15:00:46Z")

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Let’s go down their list:

- egg protein: Well, yes. It’s grown in eggs. You know if you’re allergic to eggs, and they ask you about that before you take it.
- Formaldehyde: only in the injectable version, and at doses indescribably tiny compared to what you could get from just taking a biology dissection class.
- Polysorbate 80: not present.
- Sodium Chloride and Calcium Chloride: omg, salts used in food!
- Monosodium Glutamate (MSG): only in the inhaled version. Present at doses far less than you would get from eating anything with malted barley, malt extracts, caramel coloring, etc. (contains naturally occurring glutamates). Seriously, 0.188 mg is incredibly small.
- Potassium phosphate- present in the inhaled version. Also [present in coffee creamer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipotassium_phosphate) and generally recognized as safe for food usage.
- Thimerosal- only in multi-dose vials; you don’t want vaccine going bad after it’s been opened. Plus this doesn’t cross the blood-brain barrier but people who believe the anti-vax propaganda don’t believe that.
- Polyoxidonium- not present.
- Squalene- not present.
- Span85 - not present.
- Human Diploid Tissue- not present.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
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> [@BrandonR](#):
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> I believe a working URL is here: [http://childhoodshots.com/uploads/SwineFLuVaccineFactSheet.pdf](http://childhoodshots.com/uploads/SwineFLuVaccineFactSheet.pdf)
> 
> Looking at the base website ([childhoodshots.com](http://childhoodshots.com)), it appears to be yet another anti-vaccine nutter who just enough braincells to create a crappy website…

Many thanks, that is indeed the document that got forwarded to me.

At present, I’m going through the Steven Novella ‘[Science-Based Medicine](http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/)’ blog, and though this particular nutter isn’t mentioned, there are lots of articles there refuting the anti-vacciners’ main tenets.

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/12 "2009-10-29T15:15:52Z")

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[FactCheck.org](http://FactCheck.org) did a recent article on this.

> **[Inoculation Misinformation - FactCheck.org](https://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/inoculation-misinformation/)**
>
> Wild rumors are flying about the newly developed vaccine for pandemic influenza H1N1, also known as "swine flu." We've seen e-mails stating that the vaccine is tainted with antifreeze or Agent Orange, causes Gulf War syndrome, or has killed U.S. Navy...

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**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/13 "2009-10-29T15:22:32Z")

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I see two votes for Squalene not being present in the vaccine, and I think this is where alot of the problems come from…way too many sources of information. I just happened to be reading this link a few minutes ago:

[http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/reader-questions-on-h1n1-answered/article1329448/](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/reader-questions-on-h1n1-answered/article1329448/)

And here is one of the questions answered,

> [@](#):
>
> Q: What’s in the adjuvant ?
> 
> A: The product from GlaxoSmithKline, Canada’s sole provider of H1N1 vaccine, called Arepanrix, \*\*uses an adjuvant called AS03, which consists of squalene \*\*(shark liver oil), DL-alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E) and polysorbate 80 (an emulsifier also used in ice cream). There are claims that squalene, part of the adjuvant used in the anthrax vaccine, was to blame for Gulf War syndrome, but the evidence is weak.

Bolding Mine.

I am not voting for or against, I am just saying that there seems to be conflicting answers.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/14 "2009-10-29T15:26:21Z")

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> [@JFLuvly](#):
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> I am not voting for or against, I am just saying that there seems to be conflicting answers.

Part of it seems to be where you’re from. The list I posted was from the US government, whose vaccine comes from Sanofi and Medimmune.

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**Author:** ![JFLuvly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac91a4/32.png) [@JFLuvly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JFLuvly)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/15 "2009-10-29T15:33:21Z")

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Good point, but the problem becomes an issue of cross boarder information exchange. Mine has it yours does not, mine does this, yours does that. Allow people to put all this info into the blender of their mind and then you have a huge issue.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/16 "2009-10-30T12:59:57Z")

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Hey, the government gave billions to companies for the vaccination development! I don’t’ know what that is supposed to mean…

… but if it means to stay away from anything the government subsidized, I think we’d all have a hard time getting to work, using many utilities and eating fruits, veggies and grains!

Stay away from grains! The government gave billions to farmers! Stay off the rail system, the government subsidized it! And the roads? Don’t even get me started on the roads!

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/17 "2009-10-30T13:13:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Human diploid tissue- organ and tissue from aborted baby tissue is now used in manufacturing many vaccines.

IT’S PEOPLE! VACCINES ARE PEEEEEEEEEEOPLLLLLLLE!!!

Seriously - is human diploid tissue used in any (related) medical way that might actually make this assertion less than completely insane?

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/18 "2009-10-30T13:22:07Z")

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> [@JFLuvly](#):
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> I see two votes for Squalene not being present in the vaccine, and I think this is where alot of the problems come from…way too many sources of information. I just happened to be reading this link a few minutes ago:
> 
> [http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/reader-questions-on-h1n1-answered/article1329448/](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health/h1n1-swine-flu/reader-questions-on-h1n1-answered/article1329448/)
> 
> And here is one of the questions answered,
> 
> > [@Globe and Mail](#):
> >
> > Q: What’s in the adjuvant ?
> > 
> > A: The product from GlaxoSmithKline, Canada’s sole provider of H1N1 vaccine, called Arepanrix, uses an adjuvant called AS03, which consists of **squalene (shark liver oil)**, DL-alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E) and polysorbate 80 (an emulsifier also used in ice cream). There are claims that squalene, part of the adjuvant used in the anthrax vaccine, was to blame for Gulf War syndrome, but the evidence is weak.
> 
> Bolding Mine.
> 
> I am not voting for or against, I am just saying that there seems to be conflicting answers.

Yes, GSK vaccine is available in the UK, still pending approval in the US, though it is expected to gain approval.

> [@Wall Street Journal](#):
>
> GlaxoSmithKline PLC, which has a contract to deliver 7.6 million doses, or about 3% of the total U.S. order, hasn’t received regulatory approval yet from the Food and Drug Administration for its vaccine. Glaxo filed its H1N1 vaccine application Sept. 4. The other four manufacturers received licenses for their vaccines in mid-September. Glaxo and the FDA are in discussions about the matter, and a Glaxo spokeswoman said Sunday that the FDA has given Glaxo no reason to believe that it has safety concerns about the vaccine, which is made in the same way as the company’s seasonal flu shots. The FDA declined to comment.
> 
> [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125640028120405945.html?mod=WSJ\_hpp\_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird#printMode](http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125640028120405945.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsThird#printMode)

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**Author:** ![Keweenaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Keweenaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Keweenaw)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/19 "2009-10-30T14:35:10Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
>
> Seriously - is human diploid tissue used in any (related) medical way that might actually make this assertion less than completely insane?

Lots of links out there, but it took a bit to find a source that wasn’t on an anti-vacc site.

[QUOTE=CDC]  
The virus in varicella-containing vaccines is grown, in part, in fetal tissue obtained in the 1960s from a legally aborted fetus. This tissue is removed during the manufacturing process.  
[/QUOTE]

from here - about 1/3 of the way down.

[http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/ed/imzupdate07/imup07-faqs.htm](http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/ed/imzupdate07/imup07-faqs.htm)

I’m sure there are better sources.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-confirm-or-deny-this-list-of-vaccine-ingredients/515599/20 "2009-10-30T15:23:58Z")

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Thanks - the vast amount of blatantly wrong info out there is why I didn’t just Google it myself.

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