# Please help me debunk that Muslims laughed and cheered as the Notre Dame Cathedral burned **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650 "2019-04-17T00:03:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/81 "2019-04-18T11:29:17Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Some unrelated idiocy, for your amusement: And just Who do you think determined the melting points? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/82 "2019-04-18T12:23:41Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > At which point a kid in the first row muttered under his breath that tourists could still go fuck themselves and go home, because they bug _him_. Heā€™s like 12, and the kicker : his parents are from Chechnya and he wasnā€™t even born in Paris, just lived here much of his life. Needless to say my heart swelled with civic pride.) Kidā€™s definitely well-integrated yessir šŸ˜ƒ I didnā€™t get the exact name of the guy, but heard in the radio yesterday: Macron: it will be fixed in five years! General manager of the historic monuments department or something like that: weā€™ll see what can be done. Iā€™ve been in enough magical projects to be extremely appreciative of that second guy. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/83 "2019-04-18T16:06:26Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > Or a construction worker tossed a not-fully-extinguished cigarette. A Parisian who smokes? Heaven forfend! :rolleyes: (Entirely based on the same cliches that gave us the rude waiters.) ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/84 "2019-04-18T19:16:46Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > A Parisian who smokes? Heaven forfend! :rolleyes: > > (Entirely based on the same cliches that gave us the rude waiters.) If this had happened some years back Iā€™d suggest they check for traces of bridge sweepings and chopped hay (signs that someone had been smoking a _Gauloises Caporal_). ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/85 "2019-04-19T20:29:49Z")
I was watching a video today and found at that there IS apparently a group of people who ARE cheering about the destruction of the Notre Dame Cathedral. But itā€™s not Muslims. I guess there is a thing on Chinese social media where a bunch of people (in theoryā€¦I suppose it could be 50 cent army types) have posted some rather off color things about it, saying the French got their own for burning the summer palace in China in 1860 or some such and laughing or guffawing about it. Ironically, the actual (very oppressed) Muslims in China arenā€™t part of thisā€¦well, perhaps itā€™s not so ironically, since they are heavily suppressed and closely monitored. Soā€¦not Muslims. But, my guess is, no one has even paid attention or commented about the thousands of Chinese people who HAVE laughed and/or cheered about the burning, or even knows about it. To be fair, the reactions are very mixed, with a lot of Chinese being just as sympathetic as anyone else (while thousands have done the dick move thing, millions have been sympathetic). I do have to say that the irony of some (admittedly small number in comparison to how huge it is) folks on Chinese social media laughing or cheering considering that the CCP burned and destroyed so much more isā€¦well, ironic. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/86 "2019-04-19T21:46:39Z")
> [@XT](#): > > I guess there is a thing on Chinese social media where a bunch of people (in theoryā€¦I suppose it could be 50 cent army types) have posted some rather off color things about it, saying the French got their own for burning the summer palace in China in 1860 or some such and laughing or guffawing about it. Iā€™ll see your 19th-century Summer Palace and raise you some [13th-century Talmuds](https://www.timesofisrael.com/radical-rabbi-says-notre-dame-fire-retribution-for-13th-century-talmud-burning/). > [@](#): > > Radical rabbi says Notre Dame fire retribution for 13th-century Talmud burning > > A prominent religious-Zionist rabbi known for his extremist views suggested on Wednesday that the fire that gutted the famed Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris earlier this week may have been divine retribution for the mass-burning of Talmud volumes by French Catholic priests in the city eight centuries earlier. > > Rabbi Shlomo Aviner, the rabbi of the Beit El settlement and head of the Ateret Yerushalayim yeshiva, said that Jews should not commit arson against churches, but also that there was no duty to be saddened by the fire, which gutted the famed 12th-century cathedral. [ā€¦] > > While he said he did not support burning churches abroad, Aviner claimed that the ā€œissue is more complicatedā€ in Israel and called Christianity an idolatrous religion. > > ā€œThe [anti-Zionist] Satmar Rebbe, in one of his arguments against returning to the land of Israel, wrote that there is a commandment here to burn churches, and the failure to do so is a transgressionā€ ā€” and therefore, since Jews were not about to start burning churches, they should not immigrate to the land of Israel. To be fair, Rabbi Aviner doesnā€™t seem to be advocating that Jews actually rejoice at the Notre Dame fire, but his willingness to consider destroying churches as a potentially acceptable act as long as theyā€™re on Israeli territory is kind of appalling. (And [churches in Israel have in fact been attacked](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/53-mosques-churches-vandalized-in-israel-only-9-indictments-filed-1.5452856).) ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/87 "2019-04-19T23:14:09Z")
> [@](#): > > A prominent religious-Zionist rabbi known for his extremist views suggested on Wednesday that the fire that gutted the famed Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris earlier this week may have been divine retribution for the mass-burning of Talmud volumes by French Catholic priests in the city eight centuries earlier. Godā€™s been quietly simmering about that one, huh ? Thatā€™s why you shouldnā€™t hold on to grudges, shitā€™s toxic, you lose all sense of proportion with that stuff circling inside your head over and over. Besides, any dog owner will tell you that you have only a brief window to scold your dog for shitting on the carpet. If you let them move away from it, do something else, then punish them ; they wonā€™t connect it to shitting on the carpet at all and learn the wrong thing. Like, right now weā€™re not learning we shouldnā€™t burn Talmuds - weā€™re learning that we should maybe enforce fire codes in old buildings. Way to house-train, God ! ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/88 "2019-04-19T23:20:24Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Iā€™ll see your 19th-century Summer Palace and raise you some [13th-century Talmuds](https://www.timesofisrael.com/radical-rabbi-says-notre-dame-fire-retribution-for-13th-century-talmud-burning/). > To be fair, Rabbi Aviner doesnā€™t seem to be advocating that Jews actually rejoice at the Notre Dame fire, but his willingness to consider destroying churches as a potentially acceptable act as long as theyā€™re on Israeli territory is kind of appalling. (And [churches in Israel have in fact been attacked](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/53-mosques-churches-vandalized-in-israel-only-9-indictments-filed-1.5452856).) Thatā€™sā€¦even more insane. Good grief, people are strange. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/90 "2019-11-01T01:05:41Z")
Troll/stalker reported. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/92 "2019-11-01T01:34:09Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Troll/stalker reported. Somebody is stalking trolls? Iā€™ve got mixed emotions about that, to tell the truth. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![SuperAbe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@SuperAbe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperAbe)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/93 "2019-11-01T01:38:47Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Somebody is stalking trolls? > Iā€™ve got mixed emotions about that, to tell the truth. šŸ˜ƒ Well, it is Halloweenā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/94 "2019-11-01T01:55:30Z")
That stalker of Leaffan needs to get a hobby. (Oh, yeah.) Anyway, regarding the actual intent of this thread, this is the first I heard of anything like this. Iā€™ll believe it when I see the video. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/95 "2019-11-01T09:09:39Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Somebody is stalking trolls? > Iā€™ve got mixed emotions about that, to tell the truth. šŸ˜ƒ Itā€™s those damn gnomes in the tall grassā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2019, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650/97 "2019-11-02T07:08:27Z")
> [@](#): > > cum guzzling racist cunt MOD with you rinfoā€¦ LOl straight derp all right Man, someone here really has it in for _Leaffan_, doesnā€™t he? Second time this stalker trollā€™s shown up here in a few days. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-help-me-debunk-that-muslims-laughed-and-cheered-as-the-notre-dame-cathedral-burned/832650.md?page=4)