# Please Indulge my Pitting of John McCain **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 8, 2015, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545 "2015-07-08T03:02:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545/121 "2015-07-10T19:40:41Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > He’s done enough to sever his country. He certainly has. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545/122 "2015-07-10T20:44:40Z")
Don’t you hate it when your phone is smarter than you are? ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545/123 "2015-07-10T21:09:33Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Both of you have good points. I myself am torn between wanting to write the world’s wrongs and recognizing that we can’t and that we often make things worse. > > I’m just objecting to singling out John McCain, basically because he’s a Republican and he doesnt consider these wars to be something you do while trying to pass domestic legislation. Democrats since Clinton got over their Vietnam syndrome by fighting wars in all sorts of places on the cheap, and because there was no loss of American lives, it’s become pretty much standard practice now to intervene everywhere with air power that we can get away with. It makes no sense to denounce John McCain for actually being serious about pursuing this policy, whereas Democrats just kinda like to do it in their spare time as a hobby. And we still don’t know what Plan B is when airpower doesn’t work. Apparently, Obama’s Plan B is to just continue the ineffective policy and make it his successor’s problem. No, I singled out McCain because he’s an old douche that wants to intervene militarily whenever possible. He likes war, and gets a stiffy (or can’t) over the use of the military. The American public is tired of it. I can assure you that I would be just as unhappy with the old fuckwad were he a Democrat. Tell you what, start a Pit thread bashing a Democrat who is as pro-war as McCain, and I will be the first to join. Please note, I want to be mad about people seeking to involve us in conflicts, not about how we handle conflicts we’re in. Not all of us are partisan all the time, you know. McCain likes war. I do not like war. Fuck McCain. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545/124 "2015-07-10T21:16:47Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > It’s the PIt. Get over it. And it’s entirely on topic to boot, since this is a pit thread for John McCain’s supposed warmongerishness. Don’t you dare say supposed- you have offered nothing to indicate he is NOT a warmonger, and indeed you have mostly defended his warmongering. I would dearly love to see where McCain says “No, we shouldn’t get involved in these conflicts in the first place, I am just trying to ensure they are conducted properly” McCain is a Warmongering Ass, and so are you. At least wear the mantle with pride. It is a legitimate stance, just one I don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545/125 "2015-07-10T21:20:48Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I thought we were at war with Estonia. We have always been at war with Estonia. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545/126 "2015-07-10T21:21:48Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > We have always been at war with EastOnia. Damn You!!! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545/127 "2015-07-10T21:37:25Z")
When I give you a lovely straight line like that you can’t expect it to stay hanging for six hours. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2015, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545/128 "2015-07-10T21:43:29Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > When I give you a lovely straight line like that you can’t expect it to stay hanging for six hours. 😉 I know, but some of us have jobs. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545/129 "2017-12-05T00:33:41Z")
So McCain tweeted earlier today that he was only 74 followers away from a cool 3 million. The response? A massive unfollow surge because of his vote on the tax bill–a loss of around 20,000 accounts so far. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545/130 "2017-12-05T00:37:23Z")
> [@MovieMogul](#): > > So McCain tweeted earlier today that he was only 74 followers away from a cool 3 million. The response? A massive unfollow surge because of his vote on the tax bill–a loss of around 20,000 accounts so far. I’m glad he’s focused on the important stuff. Suck on it, Tumor-Boy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-indulge-my-pitting-of-john-mccain/724545.md?page=6)