# Please Join Me for the Pitting of LinusK

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722 "2015-07-20T20:14:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/221 "2015-08-12T18:15:34Z")

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> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#):
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> Oh but ze did - the repetition of the ‘request’ confirmed that…as did your immediate acknowledgement that you couldn’t really sustain the claim you opened with: “_if_ they did” (they did). I was playing the hyperbole card, rather than the victim card, and you’re playing the _tu quoque_ card, which doesn’t do what you seem it think it does.
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> I use victim in exactly the same way each time I use it, which is to say its meaning. I’m unsure which pair of closely-spaced ‘utterings’ you’re referring to, but I expect the difference would have been in the degree of impact, rather than the meaning of the word. It’s anyone who thinks the word can have no grades of meaning, even when the context demands that that be recognised, who is the idiot. ‘Pretentious’ can also be graded in that way. Wearing a crown to work and asking your colleagues to call you ‘Your Majesty’ would be very pretentious. Using the word ‘utterings’, in any context, slightly less so.
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> And yes, it’s the Pit, all year round - but I can’t help feeling that some posters in particular will have less free time come September.

The person who told you you were clever owes you (and us) an apology.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/222 "2015-08-12T18:15:57Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> There are times when “don’t feed the troll” is useless advice. This is not one of them. You’re being a dumbass.

I wouldn’t stand for that, **j666** , she’s not the boss of you! She can’t know what machiavellian machinations, what devious devilment, what complex contrivances prompt your pleading. Personally, I await the denouement of your device with eager anticipation.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/223 "2015-08-12T18:17:22Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> I thought it was against the rules to discuss the Ignore and Buddy functionality. I see that it is allowed in the pit, but it still seems unacceptable to me. I guess really nothing is tabu here.

**j666** If you were paying attention, you’d have noticed that you can’t say \*\*\*, not even here.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/224 "2015-08-12T18:19:28Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> The person who told you you were clever owes you (and us) an apology.

I inferred it, from comparison with your own witless [del]utterings[/del] words. Now say sorry!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/225 "2015-08-12T18:23:31Z")

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> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#):
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> I inferred it, from comparison with your own witless [del]utterings[/del] words. Now say sorry!

I’m being completely serious here: you’re obviously trying really really hard to sound clever. It’s not working. Your posts literally make me cringe with embarrassment, and I don’t even like you. You’re trying way, way too hard, and you should stop.

There’s lots of other things you should also stop doing, by the way, but I think you’re fundamentally broken and won’t be able to fix those things, so actually just stop posting here.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/226 "2015-08-12T18:25:42Z")

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It’s like a parrot, mindlessly repeating what it thinks will earn it a cracker. It’d be sad if it weren’t so inane.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/227 "2015-08-12T18:27:16Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I’m being completely serious here: you’re obviously trying really really hard to sound clever. It’s not working. Your posts literally make me cringe with embarrassment, and I don’t even like you. You’re trying way, way too hard, and you should stop.

I’m usually one of those people who doesn’t enjoy humiliation humor. I find I can make exceptions.

C’mon. He’s hilarious. He backs up his claims by Donald Trumping about his luxurious brain and speechifying. He’s a winner and you are trying to make the fun go away.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/228 "2015-08-12T18:27:39Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> It’s like a parrot, mindlessly repeating what it thinks will earn it a cracker. It’d be sad if it weren’t so inane.

If my attempt at intervention doesn’t work I’m just going to start posting screenshots to /Iamverysmart for the karma.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/229 "2015-08-12T18:29:02Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I’m usually one of those people who doesn’t enjoy humiliation humor. I find I can make exceptions.

I have to watch Fawlty Towers and The Office from behind my hands. I can’t make it all the way through some of his posts.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/230 "2015-08-12T18:52:40Z")

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The Office I get but Fawlty Towers? Basil deserves everything he gets and more.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/231 "2015-08-12T19:06:48Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> The Office I get but Fawlty Towers? Basil deserves everything he gets and more.

True, but I totally understand the cringe-worthiness.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/232 "2015-08-12T19:36:51Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I have to watch Fawlty Towers and The Office from behind my hands. I can’t make it all the way through some of his posts.

I can’t watch those shows, either. But I can watch Donald Trump. 😃

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**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/233 "2015-08-12T19:59:15Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> I’m being completely serious here: you’re obviously trying really really hard to sound clever. It’s not working. Your posts literally make me cringe with embarrassment, and I don’t even like you. You’re trying way, way too hard, and you should stop.
> 
> There’s lots of other things you should also stop doing, by the way, but I think you’re fundamentally broken and won’t be able to fix those things, so actually just stop posting here.

Sweety, I would have thought it was obvious by now, but I have no interest in the opinions of anyone with as little wit or wisdom as you. You would should work on the embarrassment thing, it’s a weakness. I was wounded, I’ll grant you, by the utterly unexpected revelation that you don’t even _like_ me. No, hang on, what’s the opposite of that?

If you’d tried to be clever, you might just have worked out that if you stop posting at me, I’d stop responding…and the opposite of that, too. Eventually, if enough idiots tried hard enough to be clever, you’d not hear from me here again. The fable of the monkey and the nuts broadly applies here - let it go, and it’s gone. But you can’t keep your paw out of the jar…

> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> It’s like a parrot, mindlessly repeating what it thinks will earn it a cracker. It’d be sad if it weren’t so inane.

An uninspired analogy. I’m sorry I’ve made you sad, if it weren’t the internet I’d offer you a hanky. Sometimes, grown-ups do things that tiny minds struggle to comprehend, but dry your eyes and remember that if someone makes you this unhappy, it’s probably best to just stop playing with them. Watch some My Little Pony and think happy thoughts about rainbows, you’ll feel much better soon enough.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/234 "2015-08-12T20:02:53Z")

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> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#):
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> I wouldn’t stand for that, **j666** , she’s not the boss of you! She can’t know what machiavellian machinations, what devious devilment, what complex contrivances prompt your pleading. Personally, I await the denouement of your device with eager anticipation.

Why don’t I rate a neutral gender pronoun?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/235 "2015-08-12T20:05:26Z")

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> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#):
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> Sweety, I would have thought it was obvious by now, but I have no interest in the opinions of anyone with as little wit or wisdom as you.

What exactly is so “unrealistic” about my articulation? You make it seem as if my eloquent writing and speech (which has earned me the label of supercilious among my peers, mind you) implies I have some kind of abstruse and incredible ability when in actuality, it’s simply a manner of speech and nothing more.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/236 "2015-08-12T20:14:27Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> There are times when “don’t feed the troll” is useless advice. This is not one of them. You’re being a dumbass.

Indeed. Less Donald Trump and more Milton and his stapler. Don’t make JoW your Lumbergh, j666!

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/237 "2015-08-12T20:16:40Z")

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> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#):
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> Sweety, I would have thought it was obvious by now, but I have no interest in the opinions of anyone with as little wit or wisdom as you. You would should work on the embarrassment thing, it’s a weakness. I was wounded, I’ll grant you, by the utterly unexpected revelation that you don’t even _like_ me. No, hang on, what’s the opposite of that?

I was being completely honest with you, but you seem to think I was trying to insult you. I wasn’t; I genuinely do think you’re an embarrassment. And if you know anyone in real life whose opinion you trust, and will tell you the truth, you should show them your posts, and listen to what they say. Don’t feel the need to just take my word for it.

Seriously, is your understanding of social interaction so poor that you think people are impressed by you? I mean, you posted earlier that you had a bachelor’s degree…_and you did it as a brag_! That doesn’t seem like the behavior of a socially skilled person.

I’m not sure what benefit you receive by making an ass of yourself. Maybe it’s some public humiliation sex thing? In that case go for it. But if this isn’t some kind of weird sexual fetish then you should probably re-calibrate your social interaction meter.

As a p.s., why are these MRA types always so weird and creepy? **Jack** is pretty pathetic, but he’s not even close to the worst MRA type I’ve ever seen. Is this a club that you have to have something wrong with you to get in? What was the name of that one weird creepy MRA type who killed all those people?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/238 "2015-08-12T20:18:15Z")

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> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#):
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> If you’d tried to be clever, you might just have worked out that if you stop posting at me, I’d stop responding…and the opposite of that, too. Eventually, if enough idiots tried hard enough to be clever, you’d not hear from me here again. The fable of the monkey and the nuts broadly applies here - let it go, and it’s gone. But you can’t keep your paw out of the jar…

Honest troll is honest.  
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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/239 "2015-08-12T20:19:52Z")

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Apparently counterfactuals throw it off as well.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/240 "2015-08-12T20:23:38Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Seriously, is your understanding of social interaction so poor that you think people are impressed by you? I mean, you posted earlier that you had a bachelor’s degree…_and you did it as a brag_! That doesn’t seem like the behavior of a socially skilled person.

I didn’t see that one.

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