# Please Join Me for the Pitting of LinusK **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722 "2015-07-20T20:14:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/261 "2015-08-13T15:13:27Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > LinusK has started a new thread on economics, so our long national nightmare may be over. No, they may add on more stuff he posts on that thread. Just to keep one thread for continuity. Also the thread linked to here is still giving out gems. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/262 "2015-08-13T15:15:08Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > The feminists can finally toss him back to the economists, with apologies to all doing double duty. I’ve got one word for those doing double duty. FOOLS! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/263 "2015-08-13T15:15:41Z")
We’re done here Jack. Feel free to pontificate on currency devaluations though. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/264 "2015-08-13T15:20:45Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > But all the lovely, moderate feminists here are _nothing_ to do with those feminists suppressing free speech, or spreading rape hoaxes as a form of ‘awareness’, or seeking to eliminate due process before the law for half the population, or those who sent death threats to Erin Pizzey, or set fire to shops they didn’t like, and well, all of those ‘fringe extremists’ who are part of the feminist-o-sphere. And none of them are hypocrits, neither. Do you find it strange that of all these self-professed feminists you’ve got oh so complaisantly dancing on a string with your witty repartee, there actually aren’t any of those “fringe extremists” here? Or do you think some of us are lying about our opinions to try to convince people to adopt opinions that are not our own? I remain as stupid as ever, but pretty sure it’s gotta be one or the other. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/265 "2015-08-13T15:23:39Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > Your distasteful, dishonest attempt to link anti-feminism with holocaust denial is also shameful. > [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > You wouldn’t be trying to imply that all anti-feminists are all MRAs are all pick-up artists are all misogynists are all subhuman are all only good for the ovens would you now… No additional comments necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/266 "2015-08-13T15:43:15Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Yep, that’s him. I stand corrected on the MRA connection, though. Looking at the [Wikipedia article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Isla_Vista_killings) again it does say “He was also reportedly associated with men’s rights activism” and “subscribed to several men’s rights YouTube channels” (with cites for each of these claims), so it appears that there’s at least some evidence that he was interested in MRA. I don’t know whether he actually considered himself to be part of an MRA community, though. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/267 "2015-08-13T15:44:13Z")
I haven’t set fire to a shop in weeks. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/268 "2015-08-13T15:48:16Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Or do you think some of us are lying about our opinions to try to convince people to adopt opinions that are not our own? Well, once you go feminist, you can’t go back. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/269 "2015-08-13T17:27:10Z")
Semi-reasonableness as a gateway drug to rabidity… holy fuck, wait, so I’m a Scientologist? WHAT ARE YOUR SECRETS?? TELL ME YOUR SECRETS! ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/270 "2015-08-13T18:58:26Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > The feminists can finally toss him back to the economists, with apologies to all doing double duty. Has he ever explored the theory that two income families are bad for the economy? ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/271 "2015-08-13T19:21:05Z")
> [@j666](#): > > No, I was being cruel. **Jack** must have addressed me over a dozen times, against my expressed wish. S/he addressed me in the horrible smarmy purply way, to no purpose other than disregarding my wish. > > S/he has made it clear that nothing is more important than disrespecting others and disregarding their wishes. S/he didn’t even make a point, s/he just demonstrate a determination to show others disrespect. > > Kind of skanky, isn’t it? And now it’s on this board, for all the world to see, for perpetuity. > > I leave it to you to decide if I’m a bitch or a dick. “Being addressed against ones wish.” a dozen times on a public message board is an ‘attack’ best dealt with by ignoring it. Going “Don’t talk to me.” “Don’t talk to me.” “Don’t talk to me.” is being a baby. > [@](#): > > You don’t need one, do you? No, and I don’t mind being addressed by either she or he. **Jackoff Words** picked the conventionally “wrong” one though, and they appear to be the kind who cares about such things. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2015, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/272 "2015-08-13T19:24:04Z")
> [@j666](#): > > Has he ever explored the theory that two income families are bad for the economy? I suspect he would argue that working women emasculate their husbands and abandon their children to the vagaries of institutionalized day care, all for the sake of a bit of pocket money to waste on female fripperies. Just a guess. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/273 "2015-08-14T04:48:29Z")
**Linus** seems to have plenty of time left for the anti-feminism thread. He’s now quoting a “Men’s Rights” subreddit, which seems to confirm suspicions about where he was getting his interesting ideas. > [@Anti-Feminism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-feminism/725390/1229): > > This originally comes from Reddit, via Tumblr. Having said that, it seems authentic to me. As usual, I’m not quoting the whole thing, [but you can read it here, if you want](http://fishyfeesh.tumblr.com/post/98171451405/a-reddit-user-who-verified-their-identity-as-a). The original is [here](http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2gxxl0/ive_lived_my_life_as_both_male_and_female_and/), from the Subreddit, “Men’s Rights”. ---
**Author:** ![camille](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/22d042/32.png) [@camille](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/camille)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/274 "2015-08-14T05:32:56Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > **Linus** seems to have plenty of time left for the anti-feminism thread. He’s now quoting a “Men’s Rights” subreddit, which seems to confirm suspicions about where he was getting his interesting ideas. He posts that as if it’s _evidence_, but dismisses studies from official sources because they’re _biased_. I really think he’s just trolling now, he’s just about given up the pretense of having an honest debate. Still studiously ignoring **Jimmy Chitwood** ’s posts re child custody. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/275 "2015-08-14T07:23:10Z")
Honestly? It’s kind of inexcusable that anyone’s even engaging him anymore. It was inexcusable long before _I_ stopped… ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/276 "2015-08-14T13:17:19Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Honestly? It’s kind of inexcusable that anyone’s even engaging him anymore. It was inexcusable long before _I_ stopped… You’re right, of course. The trouble is that there’s a difference between him and most willfully ignorant one or two-note posters who are as persistent and persistently _wrong_, in that he’s actually a stand-in for a lot of people who think the things he’s saying are true; they just won’t be here arguing about it like he does. I don’t even look at **Linus** as a person who’s posting these things at this point, especially since it’s not totally clear that the intensity of his devotion to the cause is matched by the sharpness of his understanding of the issues - “hey guys, I’ve believed this is one of the most important social issues out there ever since I just learned it existed right now.” I think of him like a very persistent aggregator bot serving a demographic I have a lot of things to say to. But you’re still right. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/277 "2015-08-14T14:11:42Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > **Linus** seems to have plenty of time left for the anti-feminism thread. He’s now quoting a “Men’s Rights” subreddit, which seems to confirm suspicions about where he was getting his interesting ideas. I was going to post this in the gd thread but meh. It astonished me that this ama is any kind of evidence for Linus! I’m a 40 year old cis woman, and guess what? Teenage girls and children DO have it easier than adults. Boys too, I am sure. Imagine that. The redditor lived for 17 years as a girl, and five years as a man. Using legal adulthood as the cut off, I lived 18 years as a girl/child, and 22 years as a grown up. I miss that teen privilege. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/278 "2015-08-14T15:30:07Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I miss that teen privilege. What does it smell like? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/279 "2015-08-14T15:41:12Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > What does it smell like? 😃 Not as good as teen spirit, but way better than teen hormones run amok. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/280 "2015-08-17T19:46:53Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Do you find it strange that of all these self-professed feminists you’ve got oh so complaisantly dancing on a string with your witty repartee, there actually aren’t any of those “fringe extremists” here? Or do you think some of us are lying about our opinions to try to convince people to adopt opinions that are not our own? > > I remain as stupid as ever, but pretty sure it’s gotta be one or the other. Complacently, or compliantly? I regard anyone as an extremist if their response to ‘I do not share your ideology’ is to launch a wave of insults, which aren’t even personalised, just stock ‘Anyone who disagrees with us is a heathen. you know heathens, they eat babies’. More so when their unsophisticated sophistry extends to ‘We know your sort, you’re like those other heathens that burn babies’, again, simply for stating clearly that I am not of their faith. We share the same ideals - equality, regardless of gender…except for the extremists, of course, it’s equality for one gender. That kind of abuse of language is extremism. These are people whose adherence to their creed prevents any cognitive dissonance when faced with facts and figures - both being heathen ideas that have no place in their thinking (though they’re not beyond repeating some made-up ‘facts’ and ‘figures’, knowing that checking them is the sign of a heathen and they’re ready to burn your life down (or burn you alive, according to the twitter mob roused by those who want to ban Roosh. Or maybe they want to burn him too) So yeah, anybody who felt the need to attack in the defence of an idea, that’s an extremist. I don’t think anyone who popped into the feminism thread just to say ‘Well, I always thought it was just about equality for women’ has also been in here for a pop, but I could be wrong. Those you haven’t seen here, they’re maybe moderates - like the churchgoers in the UK, just popping in for Christmas mass and their niece’s christening, trying not to think too hard about the buggery of choirboys. Or in this case, remembering not to say ‘chairman’ and getting confused when holding a door for a woman. But they’re not really moderate feminists, by and large. Egalitarians, yes possibly, but I doubt any of them are racists, so calling themselves ‘feminists’ is a bit unnecessary. Only racist feminists, or homophobes, or transphobes or classists and so on need the term ‘feminist’. No, there’s another class - those who profit from it. Academia succumbed to the power of the powerless, and some feminists make a fair living peddling their stories. Even less rigorously, speakers and bloggers and con artists like Sarkeesian gull the gullible for their hard-earned. Local authorities and the charitable sector also have an interest in securing the lion’s share of gender-funding. Still, we’re all trying to make a living, fighting for equality by grabbing as much as we can for ourselves… Look up ‘false dichotomy’, by the way. Some of you are bound to be lieing, but that’s beside the point (and who knows what about?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722.md?page=15)