# Please Join Me for the Pitting of LinusK **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722 "2015-07-20T20:14:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/281 "2015-08-17T20:01:32Z")
“My first thought was, he lied in every word…” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/282 "2015-08-17T21:18:47Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > Complacently, or compliantly? > > I regard anyone as an extremist if their response to ‘I do not share your ideology’ is to launch a wave of insults, which aren’t even personalised, just stock ‘Anyone who disagrees with us is a heathen. you know heathens, they eat babies’. More so when their unsophisticated sophistry extends to ‘We know your sort, you’re like those other heathens that burn babies’, again, simply for stating clearly that I am not of their faith. We share the same ideals - equality, regardless of gender…except for the extremists, of course, it’s equality for one gender. That kind of abuse of language is extremism. These are people whose adherence to their creed prevents any cognitive dissonance when faced with facts and figures - both being heathen ideas that have no place in their thinking (though they’re not beyond repeating some made-up ‘facts’ and ‘figures’, knowing that checking them is the sign of a heathen and they’re ready to burn your life down (or burn you alive, according to the twitter mob roused by those who want to ban Roosh. Or maybe they want to burn him too) > > So yeah, anybody who felt the need to attack in the defence of an idea, that’s an extremist. I don’t think anyone who popped into the feminism thread just to say ‘Well, I always thought it was just about equality for women’ has also been in here for a pop, but I could be wrong. Those you haven’t seen here, they’re maybe moderates - like the churchgoers in the UK, just popping in for Christmas mass and their niece’s christening, trying not to think too hard about the buggery of choirboys. Or in this case, remembering not to say ‘chairman’ and getting confused when holding a door for a woman. > > But they’re not really moderate feminists, by and large. Egalitarians, yes possibly, but I doubt any of them are racists, so calling themselves ‘feminists’ is a bit unnecessary. Only racist feminists, or homophobes, or transphobes or classists and so on need the term ‘feminist’. No, there’s another class - those who profit from it. Academia succumbed to the power of the powerless, and some feminists make a fair living peddling their stories. Even less rigorously, speakers and bloggers and con artists like Sarkeesian gull the gullible for their hard-earned. Local authorities and the charitable sector also have an interest in securing the lion’s share of gender-funding. Still, we’re all trying to make a living, fighting for equality by grabbing as much as we can for ourselves… > > Look up ‘false dichotomy’, by the way. Some of you are bound to be lieing, but that’s beside the point (and who knows what about?) You’re incorrect about the feminism that I believe in and practice, and the feminism of most feminists I know. My feminism is about advocating that women and men be treated equally by government and society. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/283 "2015-08-17T22:40:38Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You’re incorrect about the feminism that I believe in and practice, and the feminism of most feminists I know. My feminism is about advocating that women and men be treated equally by government and society. While I find this entirely admirable and I love you for it, you went on about 33 words longer than you needed to. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/284 "2015-08-17T22:55:55Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > You’re incorrect about the feminism that I believe in and practice, and the feminism of most feminists I know. My feminism is about advocating that women and men be treated equally by government and society. The problem is that feminists like you don’t matter. The “extremists” are the ones that are the most active. They’re the ones that get columns in major newspapers, they’re the ones that have online campaigns that people hear about, and they’re the ones that get policies enacted. Who are we supposed to judge a movement by, if not its most active and well-known members? Does it matter if there is a silent majority of egalitarian feminists? ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/285 "2015-08-17T23:03:39Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > Complacently, or compliantly? Oho! Score one for the **Jack**! Unless… Do you know how you had that feeling that you were so confident that you knew that wasn’t a word, and that I couldn’t have been using a word you weren’t familiar with, that you went right ahead and posted the above even though you could have _just looked it up_, just in case, and nobody would have ever known? Do you know that level of just utter certainty you felt about it? That’s what they call a “case in point.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/286 "2015-08-17T23:19:45Z")
> [@thirdname](#): > > The problem is that feminists like you don’t matter. The “extremists” are the ones that are the most active. They’re the ones that get columns in major newspapers, they’re the ones that have online campaigns that people hear about, and they’re the ones that get policies enacted. Who are we supposed to judge a movement by, if not its most active and well-known members? Does it matter if there is a silent majority of egalitarian feminists? If by “egalitarian” you mean “people who believe other people should be treated equally by government and by society regardless of race, religion, gender, etc.”, then most prominent feminists that I’m aware of (e.g. Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, Emma Watson, most Democrats in office in the US, Beyonce and many other entertainment celebs, etc.) are egalitarian feminists. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/287 "2015-08-17T23:22:39Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Oho! Score one for the **Jack**! Unless… > > Do you know how you had that feeling that you were so confident that you knew that wasn’t a word, and that I couldn’t have been using a word you weren’t familiar with, that you went right ahead and posted the above even though you could have _just looked it up_, just in case, and nobody would have ever known? Do you know that level of just utter certainty you felt about it? > > That’s what they call a “case in point.” He’s not very bright, but on the plus side, he’s also oblivious! ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/288 "2015-08-18T00:19:15Z")
Obvious, or olive? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/289 "2015-08-18T00:41:14Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > Obvious, or olive? I can think of ways to make both of them make sense! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/290 "2015-08-18T00:48:05Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > I regard anyone as an extremist if their response to ‘I do not share your ideology’ is to launch a wave of insults, which aren’t even personalised, just stock ‘Anyone who disagrees with us is a heathen. you know heathens, they eat babies’. > > … > > Only racist feminists, or homophobes, or transphobes or classists and so on need the term ‘feminist’. **Jack of Words** : Extremist. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/291 "2015-08-18T02:02:39Z")
OK, who wasn’t paying him enough attention? You know how he gets. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/292 "2015-08-18T02:19:23Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > OK, who wasn’t paying him enough attention? You know how he gets. It was your turn! ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/293 "2015-08-18T02:27:59Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I can think of ways to make both of them make sense! Hmm… neither one, then. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/294 "2015-08-18T23:49:28Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > It was your turn! No, no, we got together and voted to give you custody. You weren’t, uh, here that day. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/295 "2015-08-19T00:19:57Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > No, no, we got together and voted to give you custody. You weren’t, uh, here that day. This is an example of that unfair bias in custody arrangements, isn’t it? Rather unfair to jsgoddess, in this case. And NO I am NOT volunteering! ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/296 "2015-08-19T00:37:18Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > This is an example of that unfair bias in custody arrangements, isn’t it? Rather unfair to jsgoddess, in this case. > > And NO I am NOT volunteering! Oh all right. In the interests of gender equality, we’ll give him to Jimmy Chitwood. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/297 "2015-08-19T00:37:55Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > This is an example of that unfair bias in custody arrangements, isn’t it? Rather unfair to jsgoddess, in this case. You think it’s unfair to **jsgoddess**? What are you, an extremist? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/298 "2015-08-19T00:49:50Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > You think it’s unfair to **jsgoddess**? What are you, an extremist? Extremism in the pursuit of jsgoddess not having custody is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of jsgoddess having custody is no virtue! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/299 "2015-08-19T02:54:33Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > LinusK has started a new thread on economics, so our long national nightmare may be over. He knows less about economics than he does about women. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/300 "2015-08-20T19:23:42Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > Oh all right. In the interests of gender equality, we’ll give him to Jimmy Chitwood. Geez… I, uh, I work a lot of hours, you know? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722.md?page=16)