# Please Join Me for the Pitting of LinusK **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 20, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722 "2015-07-20T20:14:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/101 "2015-07-30T16:25:50Z")
Meh, this is like the Globetrotters pitting the Washington Generals for being bad at basketball. The guy is making you look good, it’s making the pro feminist side look positive and sane and his side look like irrational children. You are never going to “fix” him, but believe me a lot of good is coming out of his threads. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/102 "2015-07-30T17:21:45Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Meh, this is like the Globetrotters pitting the Washington Generals for being bad at basketball. The guy is making you look good, it’s making the pro feminist side look positive and sane and his side look like irrational children. You are never going to “fix” him, but believe me a lot of good is coming out of his threads. At this point, after reading post after post after post by LinusK, I just think there’s something off about his ability to process new information. Some of it is undoubtedly willfulness, but there’s something weird about his seeming inability to move fluidly through the thread, process new data, and generate new arguments. It’s like attempting to have a conversation with a prerecorded message. ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/103 "2015-07-30T17:32:15Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Look, everyone. It’s Amateur Barbarian’s brother! Ooh, does he have metropolitan sensibilities too? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/104 "2015-07-30T20:35:29Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > At this point, after reading post after post after post by LinusK, I just think there’s something off about his ability to process new information. Some of it is undoubtedly willfulness, but there’s something weird about his seeming inability to move fluidly through the thread, process new data, and generate new arguments. It’s like attempting to have a conversation with a prerecorded message. I got the feeling that he honestly expected things to be going way better for him than they turned out and had absolutely no clue what to do after the grand majority of his arguments got demolished besides plow ahead as if he was winning. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_of\_Words](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f6c823/32.png) [@Jack\_of\_Words](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_of_Words)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/105 "2015-07-30T21:05:24Z")
Is this all you have? I feel more ‘pitted’ in the actual thread. Oh no, wait, hang on… > [@jsgoddess](#): > > Look, everyone. It’s Amateur Barbarian’s brother! An in-joke I don’t get! Oh noes, it’s my kryptonite! You got me, I’ve not been here as long as you, your arguments win! I’m melting! [Cue the Cheers theme]. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/106 "2015-07-30T21:49:48Z")
MRA types are the most pathetic people on the internet. I won’t say they’re the worst, because they’re not the worst, but they are pathetic. Anyway, I don’t see the point in debating them. You don’t become an MRA unless you’re already a pathetic loser, so debating them on the internet won’t fix them. As an aside, why do these kind of threads always attract the shitty newcomers? Start a thread on MRA, or scientific racism, or truthers, or whatever, and a bunch of shitty new posters will appear and make asses of themselves for a few months, and then never be heard from again except as an inside joke. For example, this thread appears to have summoned **Jack of Words**. **Jack** , I’ll predict your future for you: you’ll make a fool of yourself until no one cares about posting to the thread any more then you’ll disappear forever. You should just skip to that last bit. Also, why do these people always claim “I used to be a feminist” or “I used to believe in the holocaust,” or whatever? No you fucking didn’t. You’re a fucking liar and we all fucking know it. At least have enough self-respect to own your fucking dysfunction. **Jack** , you would have gotten more respect if you start out like this: “I’ve always hated women since my mother neglected me as a child and attractive women look down at me. Can you convince me to become a feminist?” Own your shit. Fucking own it. OWN IT! Coward. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/107 "2015-07-30T22:12:04Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > Own your shit. Fucking own it. OWN IT! I used to own my own shit but now it belongs to the Montgomery County Department of Environmental Services. I’m _not_ asking for it back. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/108 "2015-07-30T22:15:44Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I used to own my own shit but now it belongs to the Montgomery County Department of Environmental Services. I’m _not_ asking for it back. Little does \*\*Frank \*\*know, we’ve secretly replaced his fine coffee… ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/109 "2015-07-30T22:17:31Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > I used to own my own shit but now it belongs to the Montgomery County Department of Environmental Services. I’m _not_ asking for it back. Coward! Smart coward, but still! ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/110 "2015-07-30T22:32:25Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > For example, this thread appears to have summoned **Jack of Words**. **Jack** , I’ll predict your future for you: you’ll make a fool of yourself until no one cares about posting to the thread any more then you’ll disappear forever. You should just skip to that last bit. But he’s a writer! Live audiences lick him! He uses Words That Make You Sound Intelligent®! I predict a long and fruitful posting career as we revel in his coherence. And I, for one, welcome our new writing overlord. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/111 "2015-07-31T07:03:24Z")
> [@camille](#): > > What reliable citation? That ridiculous Tumblr link? That’s your alleged “reliable citation” for your claim about suffragettes? Are you shitting? **Jack** ass couldn’t be bothered to provide cites because he thought my “‘knowledge’ of history” came from Tumblr and his cite for his claim came Tumblr in the first place. I think you’re right. **Jack** is **LinusK** ’s evil twin. He’s definitely not the smart one. Although between the two I think it’s more like a race to the bottom. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/112 "2015-07-31T13:50:54Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Are you shitting? **Jack** ass couldn’t be bothered to provide cites because he thought my “‘knowledge’ of history” came from Tumblr and his cite for his claim came Tumblr in the first place. > > I think you’re right. **Jack** is **LinusK** ’s evil twin. He’s definitely not the smart one. Although between the two I think it’s more like a race to the bottom. He’s a Tumblr Scholar, and your silly actual degrees are meaningless next to his awesome blog-based knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/113 "2015-07-31T15:32:17Z")
> [@ddsun](#): > > Are you shitting? **Jack** ass couldn’t be bothered to provide cites because he thought my “‘knowledge’ of history” came from Tumblr and his cite for his claim came Tumblr in the first place. He’s probably citing himself. It’s genetic! ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/114 "2015-07-31T15:52:29Z")
I’m finding Jack’s coy bullshit even worse than LinusK’s willful ignorance. Citation needed that i requested a cite for an uncitabe supposition that may or may not have been made at some point in the preceding 14 pages… ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/115 "2015-07-31T15:55:05Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I’m finding Jack’s coy bullshit even worse than LinusK’s willful ignorance. > > Citation needed that i requested a cite for an uncitabe supposition that may or may not have been made at some point in the preceding 14 pages… In which he may or may not have linked to some random person’s blog or his own about events in an unnamed country and do not appear to mesh with his claims. Winning! ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/116 "2015-07-31T17:00:06Z")
But convince him! Because! Reasons! He said so! You didn’t! Winning again!!! (I should have done that all in caps for an accurate representation. I always feel like he’s yelling.) ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/117 "2015-07-31T17:12:44Z")
Jack of Words is wasting all that audience-lapping eloquence to say, in essence, “neener neener neener.” ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/118 "2015-07-31T17:56:08Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > Jack of Words is wasting all that audience-lapping eloquence to say, in essence, “neener neener neener.” You’re forgetting the persecution complex, which is his most attractive trait. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/119 "2015-07-31T18:12:31Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > You’re forgetting the persecution complex, which is his most attractive trait. I don’t know; I find his unfounded but unshakeable belief in his own awesomeness pretty hot. …No, wait. He’s an idiot. Never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722/120 "2015-07-31T18:29:56Z")
> [@Jack\_of\_Words](#): > > Second error: I have read everything in the thread, and responded to those who addressed me. As for ‘coherence’, I have had to explain metaphors to one poster - and I will grant that in the heat of a turbulent ‘debate’ the layered references of the whole ‘horse/duck’ thing might have whooshed over you, but my writing is both published and lapped up by live audiences so you’re certainly not convincing _me_ when you claim I’m incoherent. For the thousands of you that have been hanging on the edges of your seats waiting for some exposition of this episode, wherein MRA Salvatore here, professional writer of fantasy, gives a stupid idiot a taste of that old dictionary to the moneymaker, I present to you this devastating exchange: > [@Anti-Feminism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-feminism/725390/631): > > You can either explain in your own words what you think feminism is, then I can determine whether or not I should convince you to be a feminist, or you want me to guess what you think and when I get it wrong you can point your finger at me and laugh? > [@Anti-Feminism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-feminism/725390/632): > > Feminism is an equine quadruped. It quacks and lays eggs. > > Now I’ve played your game, on my terms. Are you going to convince me to be a feminist? > [@Anti-Feminism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-feminism/725390/634): > > …well obviously not. If you truly believe that Feminism is an equine quadruped, it quacks and lays eggs, then no, don’t be a feminist. I see no compelling reason why anyone should try to convince you. > > See? That wasn’t very hard at all. And it would be silly for anyone else to waste their time trying to convince you to be a feminist as well, so you can stop asking now. > [@Anti-Feminism](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-feminism/725390/635): > > Well it was more in the manner of a [metaphor](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/metaphor?s=t), but again, I may have overestimated my audience. There are clues to it being a metaphor, not least my having previously explained literally what I think feminism is, and my never having mentioned ducks, horses, eggs or legs in this thread prior to that metaphor (although I accept that all that would also have whooshed past anyone who declined to read what I had read…but chose to argue anyway. Isn’t the internet fun :)) > > And no, it wasn’t hard at all. Whoever suggested otherwise? I expect it _would_ be silly for someone who takes a metaphor as literal to try to convince me of anything, but I’m still open to persuasion. If it’s not too hard… Lap it up, stupids! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-join-me-for-the-pitting-of-linusk/725722.md?page=7)