# Please Mr. Obama, PLEEEAAAASSSSEEEE!!!!!!!!!! An open letter...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 4, 2008, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937 "2008-09-04T04:49:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/41 "2008-09-05T00:42:07Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Should I make the open letter to Larry Flynt or to Michael Moore?
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> (I wonder if Larry Flynt would offer Bristol $2 million to pose naked and pregnant? He’d be breaking no laws at all…)
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> ETA: Shit! She’s underage isn’t she?
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> Offer the boyfriend $2 million to do gay porn maybe?

still illegal. try plan “c”.

Insert tacky “Plan B” joke here.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/42 "2008-09-05T00:58:46Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> That would be a good strategy except it’s not Obama’s best format. He does not do well when he gets off-point and it manifests itself in a lot of tonque tripping. Unlike Bush, who invents new words when he gets into trouble, Obama grinds to a halt and stumbles around. It’s one thing when you’re surrounded by supporters at a rally but in a live debate that would be death. It’s probably why McCain was pushing hard for more town hall debates.  
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Yes, you already said that, and I already responded to it. I’m sure he could be prepped well enough to get the guy up on step.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/43 "2008-09-05T02:04:25Z")

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> [@Velma](#):
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> Obama has little children too but no one is saying that about him. If she was a man people would not say “he should not be away from his kids so much.” If she has the support of her husband, go for it. It makes me defend her when people say things like that, and I don’t really want to defend her.

The two are not in the same position, not due to gender, but due to the children, so you can stop defending her if you like. Obama has two apparently stable school aged children, Palin has \*four \*kids, one of whom is pregnant and unwed (which means she has four children and one on the way) and one of whom is a special needs infant. 4 = 2[sup]2[/sup], and two of those four could benefit from a whole hell of a lot of parental attention at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/44 "2008-09-05T02:07:49Z")

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One thing in Palin’s defense I will say is that I couldn’t give less than a damn about “who’s gonna take care of her family?” as I’m pretty sure she’s not going to leave out some food and water and a number to call in D.C… That’s totally her concern and I agree that this is sexist to criticize, though I will say that I’ve heard the “that’s sexist” comments but have yet to hear a respected member of the media actually say “who’s gonna watch her kids?”

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**Author:** ![Batsinma\_Belfry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ea5d25/32.png) [@Batsinma\_Belfry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batsinma_Belfry)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/45 "2008-09-05T02:18:11Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> What’s she running for again?

Presidential Puppet Master

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/46 "2008-09-05T12:31:12Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> … Palin has \*four \*kids …

Five kids.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/47 "2008-09-05T13:00:18Z")

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Well, that depends on which rumors you believe, doesn’t it? But Obama, to his credit, has asked his supporters to knock off criticisms of Palin’s family.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/48 "2008-09-05T19:45:14Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> still illegal. try plan “c”.
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> Insert tacky “Plan B” joke here.

What would be illegal about offering the boyfriend cash to do gay porn? He’s 18 isn’t he?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/49 "2008-09-05T20:06:29Z")

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> [@Velma](#):
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> I am sad for her little baby. They kept showing close ups of him last night, and the way I hear people talking about him makes me uncomfortable. As if he is some sort of mascot.
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> The Down Syndrome baby! As if he is not a real individual child.

Coming soon from the Franklin Mint ceramics division, and appearing on the mantel of your friendly neighborhood wingnut …

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**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/50 "2008-09-06T00:52:01Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> The two are not in the same position, not due to gender, but due to the children, so you can stop defending her if you like. Obama has two apparently stable school aged children, Palin has \*four \*kids, one of whom is pregnant and unwed (which means she has four children and one on the way) and one of whom is a special needs infant. 4 = 2[sup]2[/sup], and two of those four could benefit from a whole hell of a lot of parental attention at the moment.

But if her husband is home with them, they are getting parental attention. I think that if it was a man running with the exact same situation, and his wife was home with the kids, no one would make comments about him needing to be home more.

But I am done defending her, anyway. I look forward to the debates.

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2008, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-mr-obama-pleeeaaaasssseeee-an-open-letter/461937/51 "2008-09-06T11:57:52Z")

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> [@Velma](#):
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> But if her husband is home with them, they are getting parental attention. I think that if it was a man running with the exact same situation, and his wife was home with the kids, no one would make comments about him needing to be home more.
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> But I am done defending her, anyway. I look forward to the debates.

I agree about this. I doubt it would occur to anyone to criticize a male candidate for running for office under the same conditions. Of course, the teen pregnancy might never have been brought to the fore, since no one would suspect the male candidate of pretending to be the mother of his grandchild.

But it seems to me that the criticism of Sarah Palin along these lines is coming from the “family values” voters who are supposed to be her base as much or more as it’s coming from the “leftists” who think she’s a horrible choice for other reasons.

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