# Please reach out to military members you know after Trumps announcement **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 2, 2020, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-reach-out-to-military-members-you-know-after-trumps-announcement/854901 "2020-06-02T05:47:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-reach-out-to-military-members-you-know-after-trumps-announcement/854901/1 "2020-06-02T05:47:42Z")
Shooting and killing unarmed civilians (which Trump will order you to do) is a WAR CRIME. You are not required to follow these orders. I know you will do the right and brave thing and stand down if ordered to do so. Thank you, your fellow Americans. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-reach-out-to-military-members-you-know-after-trumps-announcement/854901/2 "2020-06-02T07:02:00Z")
You think an order from Trump to shoot peaceful citizens is imminent? I’d disagree. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-reach-out-to-military-members-you-know-after-trumps-announcement/854901/3 "2020-06-02T07:18:23Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You think an order from Trump to shoot peaceful citizens is imminent? I’d disagree. Well, shooting rubber bullets and tear gas is kosher then so as to get a bizarre photo “opportunity”. > **[Officers fire tear gas on peaceful protesters to clear the way for Trump’s...](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/6/1/21277530/trump-speech-police-violence-dc-tear-gas)** > > Police violence preceded Trump’s first speech on the nationwide protests against police violence. > [@](#): > > Just before he spoke, federal police violently broke up a peaceful protest just outside the White House, tear-gassing a group of about 1,000 demonstrators and then firing rubber bullets at them so Trump could have an uninterrupted photo op at a nearby church damaged in the weekend’s upheaval. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-reach-out-to-military-members-you-know-after-trumps-announcement/854901/4 "2020-06-02T08:19:11Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You think an order from Trump to shoot peaceful citizens is imminent? I’d disagree. If Trump does anything like this, those who support him will swear up and down that the victims weren’t “peaceful,” and therefore deserved to die. It’s not like he’s going to say outright, “mow down the protestors, no matter what they do.” He’ll provoke and lie first to put a veneer of justice over it. It’s up to you whether you believe him. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-reach-out-to-military-members-you-know-after-trumps-announcement/854901/5 "2020-06-02T11:31:17Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > If Trump does anything like this, those who support him will swear up and down that the victims weren’t “peaceful,” and therefore deserved to die. It’s not like he’s going to say outright, “mow down the protestors, no matter what they do.” He’ll provoke and lie first to put a veneer of justice over it. > > It’s up to you whether you believe him. He’s already doing that, calling the protesters members of antifa, an oxymoron if I’ve ever heard one, based on zero evidence. Barr is doing the same, calling antifa a terrorist organization – how can you be an organization when there’s no actual group, membership, or, well, organization? It’s today’s version of communist sympathizer. So, he won’t tell the military to shoot “innocent protesters”, it will be to shoot “terrorist members of antifa”, basically, anyone he wants to shoot. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-reach-out-to-military-members-you-know-after-trumps-announcement/854901/6 "2020-06-02T11:40:56Z")
Also, rubber bullets can actually [kill](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16167715/). Not often, but the more of them there are flying around, the greater likelihood it will happen. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-reach-out-to-military-members-you-know-after-trumps-announcement/854901/7 "2020-06-02T11:47:34Z")
Disobedience to orders is punishable under the UCMJ and therefore illegal. It is against the rules of the SDMB to encourage illegal acts. Therefore I’m closing this. No warning issued.