# Please spoil this Willy Wonka thing for me **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 25, 2007, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-spoil-this-willy-wonka-thing-for-me/409338 "2007-06-25T16:44:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-spoil-this-willy-wonka-thing-for-me/409338/41 "2007-06-26T14:48:03Z")
[QUOTE=Soapbox Monkey] You’re doing yourself a terrible disservice. Go rent the Gene Wilder version. NOW! [/QUOTE] If I can resist The Wizard of Oz I can resist this one. And Gene Wilder isn’t a favorite. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-spoil-this-willy-wonka-thing-for-me/409338/42 "2007-06-26T15:05:32Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] _Charlie and the Chocolate Factory_ does a better job of some things (the precise wording of the dialogue, for example), but does not do a very good job with the character of Willy Wonka, and messes up the ending quite horribly as a result. [/QUOTE] I thought that, other than the wholly superfluous Robert Bly Reclaiming Fatherhood plot, the new one did a pretty good job with Wonka’s character. He wasn’t quite as manic, but he was pretty great. The wording of the songs was better, too. I just pretend that the Wonka’s Dad nonsense didn’t exist, and I’m happy with the new version. (And I read the book both before and after seeing it, too!) Daniel ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2007, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-spoil-this-willy-wonka-thing-for-me/409338/43 "2007-06-26T15:41:43Z")
[QUOTE=Spectre of Pithecanthropus] I don’t travel much, but I haven’t met an Eastern European immigrant hotel maid in my entire life… [/QUOTE] Really? In my favorite vacation spots, I see Czech and Polish chambermaids all the time, as well as Spanish and Portuguese. Very often they are college students “doing” a summer in the states. Not immigrants, but working tourists. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-spoil-this-willy-wonka-thing-for-me/409338/44 "2007-06-27T00:59:07Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] WHAT ARE THE SNOZBERRIES?! 🙂 [/QUOTE] [Grabs **gigi** ’s bratty little face] _We_ are the musicmakers, and we are the dreamers of dreams! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-spoil-this-willy-wonka-thing-for-me/409338/45 "2007-06-27T16:40:55Z")
[QUOTE=Alan Smithee] [Grabs **gigi** ’s bratty little face] _We_ are the musicmakers, and we are the dreamers of dreams! :eek: [/QUOTE] Musicmakers, eh? That explains it. My friend was in a band named The Snozberries. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2007, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-spoil-this-willy-wonka-thing-for-me/409338/46 "2007-06-27T22:53:59Z")
Does anyone else find it ironic that the first film, which focuses more on Charlie, is named _Willy Wonka_, and the second film, which focuses more on Wonka, is named _Charlie_? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-spoil-this-willy-wonka-thing-for-me/409338/47 "2007-06-28T00:06:16Z")
[QUOTE=gigi] Musicmakers, eh? That explains it. My friend was in a band named The Snozberries. [/QUOTE] Calling themselves “The Dickheads” probably wouldn’t have been a good idea. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2007, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-spoil-this-willy-wonka-thing-for-me/409338/48 "2007-06-28T04:19:24Z")
[QUOTE=Chronos] Does anyone else find it ironic that the first film, which focuses more on Charlie, is named _Willy Wonka_, and the second film, which focuses more on Wonka, is named _Charlie_? [/QUOTE] Yeah, I noticed that right away. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-spoil-this-willy-wonka-thing-for-me/409338.md?page=2)