# Please stop pointing out that it was Flavor-Aid

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 10, 2008, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068 "2008-11-10T17:51:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/41 "2008-11-11T00:37:09Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> A helpful hint: the expression “Drink the Kool-Aid” is an insult.
> 
> When others reply: “It was Flavor-Aid,” they are insulting you back.

> [@chrisk](#):
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> This actually fits.

Maybe in some conversations you’ve had, but it’s not what people are getting at when they say it here.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/42 "2008-11-11T00:48:33Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Eh, according to the documentary I watched last night, most of the people who wanted to leave left with the senator right before it all went down. A few others escaped while it was happening. A few were shot, yes. Most drank voluntarily. The last audio from the tragedy has one woman voicing dissent, but a couple people shout her down and then she shuts up after Jones says the senator is dead.

It was actually a member of the U.S. House of Representatives ([Leo Ryan (D-CA)](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Ryan), not a senator.

…What?

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**Author:** ![Lily\_Milliner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8edcca/32.png) [@Lily\_Milliner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lily_Milliner)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/43 "2008-11-11T00:48:59Z")

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> [@Duke](#):
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> Still, if I were the Kool-Aid company, I’d be mad enough to bust through a wall over the situation. Oh yeah.

I know it’s a lot of posts later, but I just had to give you props for this. 😃

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/44 "2008-11-11T01:13:05Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> **Point 1**
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> We know all ready. For god’s sake, we know. **Every** time Kool-Aid or Jonestown is mentioned on this board, someone has to come along and say, “it was Flavor-Aid, you know.” We know.

I did not know this. I had to google Flavor-Aid since I didn’t know what it was. Well, not that I cared much. But could we allow it a few more times so I can at least see it once.

Or maybe the OP could link to an example.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/45 "2008-11-11T01:26:38Z")

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I think I may have to link to this comic everytime we get into a discussion like this.

> **[Duty Calls](https://xkcd.com/386/)**
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> What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/46 "2008-11-11T01:37:46Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Maybe in some conversations you’ve had, but it’s not what people are getting at when they say it here.

Oh yes it is. They are pointing out that you’re mindlessly parroting a phrase which (as your OP circuitously reveals) is not supported by fact.

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> so the people did in fact “drink the Kool-Aid”, even if it wasn’t necessarily on the day of their death.

Really? So the expression is accurate because these people drank Kool-Aid on a previous occasion?

When the cultists actually killed themselves, they were drinking grape Flavor-Aid. They were not drinking Kool-Aid. Your blatant attempt at historical revisionism might work on other message boards, but not here at the SDMB. Here, people will always step up to defend the truth. Take your grotesque distortion of the facts and peddle it elsewhere, Kool-Aid Man. Your tongue is purple with the flavor of mendacity.

Here’s a suggestion: why not try making a plea for people to stop using the phrase “drink the Kool-Aid?” Why are you attacking history, instead of those who perpetuate myths and falsehoods? If you’re going to go that route, why then you’d better get busy on your plea for people to stop using the phrases “man walked on the Moon” and “Iraq had no WMDs.”

I should probably add a caveat that the above is intended to be over-the-top and not at all serious… just in case **Cisco** really is whooped up on the Kool-Aid.

🆒 \<– orange citrus Flavor-Aid smiley

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/47 "2008-11-11T02:08:47Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> Take your grotesque distortion of the facts and peddle it elsewhere, Kool-Aid Man. Your tongue is purple with the flavor of mendacity.

I totally “heard” that in a Stephen Colbert voice.

Oh yeah!

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**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/48 "2008-11-11T03:33:17Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> A helpful hint: the expression “Drink the Kool-Aid” is an insult.

A publication I used to work for was going to use “We’re Drinking the Kool-Aid!” or some variation in promotional material (which was to be mailed out with Kool-Aid packets). It was all designed and in proofs ready to be printed when it came across my desk to be checked. I did feel a responsibility to point out to the promo department that it might be copyright infringement, that drinking the Kool-Aid refers not to enthusiasm but to blind obedience to an authority, and that they were kind of making a joke about a mass suicide. I gave them a pass on the whole Flavor-Aid thing.

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/49 "2008-11-11T20:09:05Z")

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> [@Borborygmi](#):
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> Okay, after this, my first indulgence with the multiple quote buttons.

Wait, how do you do multiple quotes non manually? 😕

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/50 "2008-11-11T20:17:43Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Wait, how do you do multiple quotes non manually? 😕

In the lower right corner of every post between the Quote button and the Quick Reply buttom is the Mulit-Quote button. It has a "+ on a notepad symbol.

Click this for every post you want in the multi-quote, in can even be from more than one thread. Then when you click Reply you get all the posts you selected.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/51 "2008-11-11T20:17:52Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Wait, how do you do multiple quotes non manually? 😕

See that button with the quote marks between the button labelled “Quote” and the one with the quill pen? Click that, and it’ll turn red, then go and click that button in another post, it will _also_ turn red. Then, when you click submit “Post Reply” you’ll find both of them in the post window.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/52 "2008-11-11T20:50:51Z")

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> [@Terrifel](#):
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> Here’s a suggestion: why not try making a plea for people to stop using the phrase “drink the Kool-Aid?”

But then what would we Mac users drink?!

😃

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/53 "2008-11-11T21:05:54Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> But then what would we Mac users drink?!
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> 😃

Not sure, but I’m sure it would start with “i”. 😃

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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/54 "2008-11-12T03:03:40Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> See that button with the quote marks between the button labelled “Quote” and the one with the quill pen? Click that, and it’ll turn red, then go and click that button in another post, it will _also_ turn red. Then, when you click submit “Post Reply” you’ll find both of them in the post window.

Awesome! You’ve saved me much effort! 😃

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-stop-pointing-out-that-it-was-flavor-aid/472068/55 "2008-11-12T03:30:11Z")

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So was there some kind of endorsement deal since Flavor- Aid was a competitor of Kool Aid?

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