# Please/thanks to the people that can give the Japanese equivalent of this quote about public domain. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 17, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-thanks-to-the-people-that-can-give-the-japanese-equivalent-of-this-quote-about-public-domain/806831 "2018-01-17T15:37:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kadmos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@Kadmos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kadmos1)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-thanks-to-the-people-that-can-give-the-japanese-equivalent-of-this-quote-about-public-domain/806831/1 "2018-01-17T15:37:05Z")
> **[Uramichi Oniisan Manga Explains Problems of Illegal Distribution Sites](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-01-10/uramichi-oniisan-manga-explains-problems-of-illegal-distribution-sites/.126173)** > > Manga creator Gaku Kuze posted a special Uramichi Oniisan manga on Twitter on Friday. In the manga, the series' title character educates young children... Rant: If you have uploaded the original theatrical version of a now public domain (at least in it’s native country and the country you uploaded it in) onto YouTube, there is less of an issue. That is, if all copyrighted layers of that film version have lapsed their copyrights (especially the book it was adapted from and the soundtrack) and all possible trademarks related to that film have lapsed, you shouldn’t be in any legal trouble. That is, outside of a thing called copyright restoration." Japan does have the public domain. However, the Berne Convention (that international copyright treaty most of the nations are members) mandates that most works (excluding film and photos) expire at least 50 years after the creator(s) have died. Japan is life+50 or may have been temporarily life+70 when it prepping for the TP-P. Please/thanks to the people that can give the Japanese text equivalent of this quote about the public domain, as I want to tweet that response to the manga-ka: “when a manga work’s copyrights and all its trademarks become public domain in the country of the uploader, it is legal.” ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-thanks-to-the-people-that-can-give-the-japanese-equivalent-of-this-quote-about-public-domain/806831/2 "2018-01-17T15:54:33Z")
I don’t quite get what you’re saying. I feel like you’re saying that there are some things that are in the Public Domain that can be posted freely, morally. Which, while possibly true, doesn’t seem to have much to do with the link - which is talking about posting things, immorally, to rake in a buck, knowing full well that it hurts the original author and publisher. ---
**Author:** ![Kadmos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@Kadmos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kadmos1)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-thanks-to-the-people-that-can-give-the-japanese-equivalent-of-this-quote-about-public-domain/806831/3 "2018-01-17T16:00:31Z")
When a person uploads a manga (or any work) online and when all copyrights/TMs to it (including any underlying source material) are now public domain, it is legal. Also, unauthorized doesn’t always mean illegal. For example, a now public domain movie was uploaded onto YT. While you were not authorized by the previous rights holders to upload, legally you don’t need to ask permission ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-thanks-to-the-people-that-can-give-the-japanese-equivalent-of-this-quote-about-public-domain/806831/4 "2018-01-17T16:55:23Z")
Legal doesn’t mean moral. If I find some small, island nation, build a house there, and bribe the government of the island to decree my house exempt from all laws, it doesn’t make it moral for me to rape and murder women in that location. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-thanks-to-the-people-that-can-give-the-japanese-equivalent-of-this-quote-about-public-domain/806831/5 "2018-01-18T02:03:06Z")
Just for the record, the words “public domain” don’t appear anywhere in the article. The article talks exclusively about _illegal_ posting of in-copyright materials. Some quotes: > [@](#): > > Manga creator Gaku Kuze posted a special Uramichi Oniisan manga on Twitter on Friday. In the manga, the series’ title character educates young children about the problems with illegally distributing manga online. > [@](#): > > He explains that the existence of illegal distribution sites it common knowledge, and the number of people using such sites in excess is increasing. Meanwhile, creators and publishers largely remain silent about the problem. Uramichi believes they let the problem continue by not openly acknowledging what is wrong with illegal distribution. > [@](#): > > Uramichi then asks the children what will happen the manga creators, publishers, and book sellers who rely on money from manga if the unauthorized free distribution persists. The children realize that those people could lose money and their jobs. Uramichi explains that manga would stop being produced because people who distribute manga illegally continue even if they are told to stop. The article actually describes a manga that is a powerful argument _against_ illegal pirating and distribution of copyrighted works to the detriment of creators. It’s as far from the OP’s description as reality can stretch. ---
**Author:** ![Kadmos1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/13edae/32.png) [@Kadmos1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kadmos1)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-thanks-to-the-people-that-can-give-the-japanese-equivalent-of-this-quote-about-public-domain/806831/6 "2018-01-20T22:55:29Z")
Unauthorized doesn’t always mean illegal. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/please-thanks-to-the-people-that-can-give-the-japanese-equivalent-of-this-quote-about-public-domain/806831/7 "2018-01-21T01:12:21Z")
> [@Kadmos1](#): > > Unauthorized doesn’t always mean illegal. Your own cite uses the term “illegal” multiple times. Do you have any evidence that it it being used incorrectly? Remember, your opinion on what _should_ be legal is not evidence.