# Plot Holes that Aren't (Iron Man 2 spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 6, 2014, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472 "2014-04-06T14:46:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/41 "2014-04-09T14:23:07Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > I just always hated the way the screw looked into DuFresne’s cell. I know it was meant to make us think he’d committed suicide but his facial expression makes no sense in the context of what he’s seeing. He has just realised that an inmate has escaped on his watch, he’s probably in a world of trouble, I can see why his facial expression is a little bit shocked. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/42 "2014-04-09T15:41:54Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > **Labor Day** > _Looks like we’ll need to put in a little overtime on this one…_ Valentine’s Day _If they get lucky, we’re all fucked._ ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/43 "2014-04-09T17:39:21Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > He has just realised that an inmate has escaped on his watch, he’s probably in a world of trouble, I can see why his facial expression is a little bit shocked. He doesn’t look over at the bed, then approach the bed to make sure the dude isn’t asleep there. He looks at the bed then around the room and is sorta looking up, roughly in the direction of the poster when the scene ends. It’s not his shock, it’s the way he’s shocked. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/44 "2014-04-09T17:39:41Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I think he’s confusing this with MIB Possibly, but I think I’m actually confusing it with the Independence Day expanded universe novels. Yes they exist, and yes I read them. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/45 "2014-04-09T18:05:51Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > He doesn’t look over at the bed, then approach the bed to make sure the dude isn’t asleep there. He looks at the bed then around the room and is sorta looking up, roughly in the direction of the poster when the scene ends. But thats exactly the way somebody would look if there was nobody in the room? Its a tiny room, he can see immediately that it is empty so of course he doesn’t go over to check the obviously empty bed, he doesn’t need to. He knows immediately the cell is empty and his face drops. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/46 "2014-04-09T18:16:22Z")
Star Wars prequels. People always claim that Anakin meets people in the Prequels who Vader shows no sign of knowing in the Originals. Anakin/Vader only met the following in both trilogies, Palpatine, Obi Wan, Tarkin, Boba Fett and C3PO and he recognises all, except C3PO, with whom he shares only one scene: the Freezing Han scene where he is kind of preoccupied. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/47 "2014-04-09T18:29:00Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > except C3PO, with whom he shares only one scene: the Freezing Han scene where he is kind of preoccupied. And there’s Protocol droids all over the place - heck, there was even a “rude” one on Bespin, so he should hardly be expected to recognize one he happened to build. I don’t go running up to every old Revell plastic model I see in a toy store and think it’s mine from 30 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/48 "2014-04-09T18:58:52Z")
Another from the prequels: Yoda is a great general in the prequels. In _Empire_, he dismisses the concept with, “Wars not make one great.” This isn’t an inconsistency, it’s character growth. It was his experiences during the war (_which he lost_) that made him realize the futility of war. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/49 "2014-04-09T19:03:34Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Another from the prequels: Yoda is a great general in the prequels. In _Empire_, he dismisses the concept with, “Wars not make one great.” This isn’t an inconsistency, it’s character growth. It was his experiences during the war (_which he lost_) that made him realize the futility of war. Well of course - the loser always says crap like that. ---
**Author:** ![GreedySmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a698b9/32.png) [@GreedySmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreedySmurf)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/50 "2014-04-10T03:07:42Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Although, I really have to wonder how the arc reactor at Stark Industries could fail to be cost-effective. It can’t be the energy needed to keep it running, because it’s producing that and more itself. The initial installation might have been expensive, but that wouldn’t explain it being uneconomical to _keep_ it running once it was in place. The fuel is presumably hydrogen, which is cheap, and we never see Tony having to refuel any of his own devices, so that can’t be it. What other operating expenses does it have? The miniaturized one in Tony’s chest seems to use-up the core material (palladium?). Presumably the larger one also does that. I don’t know how much a comparatively sized piece of palladium for the full sized reactor would be, but with palladium costing ~$800 a gram, I can’t imagine it would be cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/51 "2014-04-10T03:50:39Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > Is there any indication that they have a free-market consumer-driven economy, with masses of alien citizens demanding the latest/greatest/gee-whiz technothingamabob every few years, necessitating periodic “updates?” Or even driving innovation? Or did they plateau technologically? If they’ve plateaued, they’ve done so at a point far beyond where humans have currently reached. Now sure, IF they left enough information here for us to completely reverse-engineer their OS and IF goldblum’s character was party to that information and IF the aliens made a fundamentally insecure OS that can be completely brought down by a single virus and IF their network infrastructure is also similar enough to ours that we can just plug regular laptops in via a USB to _universe_ serial bus (see what I did there?) adapter and IF they haven’t updated their OS in 50 odd years and IF bringing down the OS literally brings down the ships …then sure it “works”. But if we’re going down that road, then no film has ever had a plot hole, since we can always make sense of anything given enough off-camera contrivances (just as we can defend any hypothesis in the real world given free rein to add whatever ad hoc speculation we like). Though I agree with **MaxTheVool** that “plot hole” isn’t the term I’d use here. It’s just a weakness in the story that breaks any suspension of disbelief one may have (or it’s possible to have watching a sci fi). ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/52 "2014-04-10T04:05:36Z")
> [@GreedySmurf](#): > > The miniaturized one in Tony’s chest seems to use-up the core material (palladium?). It’s palladium until late in the second movie (I watched the whole trilogy yesterday and the day before), yes. He finds a less toxic replacement later on, but probably not a more cost effective one. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472/53 "2014-05-14T17:00:48Z")
Another Star Wars one. The port hole was no undefended, it was actually ray shielded. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/plot-holes-that-arent-iron-man-2-spoilers/685472.md?page=2)