# Pluribus (New Vince Gilligan show on AppleTV) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, apple\ **Created:** [November 7, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659 "2025-11-07T12:10:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/301 "2025-11-24T02:05:12Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > This will put Carol closer to a solution if she can figure out how to put the whole world into cardiac arrest simultaneously and then shock everyone back to life a minute later. I really don’t see us having a draft solution to the problem this early in the show. Plus, I would be shocked if others hadn’t already died and been revived somewhere in the world. Especially given the mayhem that followed (1) the original infection(s) and (2) the pair of Carol-induced seizures. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/302 "2025-11-24T02:15:29Z")
I’m starting to think the show’s long term dynamic could be a frustrated Carol making actual progress, in fits and starts, to figuring out a way to at least separate individuals from the hive, while the hive, in a smiling, friendly, and good-natured way, gently tries to sabotage her efforts. This could lead to a lot of amusingly tense scenes in which the viewer is worried that the hive might find Carol’s latest experiment and gently disrupt it. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/303 "2025-11-24T02:23:00Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Apple’s order two so far, Vince says he thinks it will take 3 to 4 to tell the story. There’s no reason to think Apple won’t renew it for as many as it takes. The Spectator (which I don’t subscribe to bypass the paywall) says the show is “a mess”. So was the first and fifth act of “King Lear” yet they’d have walked out sometime in the second. I had only heard that VG had the scope sorted out as two seasons. Yet Aaron Paul and Bob Odenkirk were not supposed to have much of a role in BB. I can’t really see how he’ll keep it a character show without some sciencey-stuff yet I’m good with 3-4 seasons if he remains show-runner. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/304 "2025-11-24T03:06:03Z")
> [@Meltdown](#): > > On this subject, I was wondering what the hive mind does for fun. I also wonder if they continue to act happy when they’re not around Carol, or if that’s just for her benefit (and the other immune). ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/305 "2025-11-24T03:07:48Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > > [@Mr.Duality](#): > > > > Did no one other than myself notice that when Zosia was dying, none of the spectators had the standard self-satisfied happy grin? They were actually rather grim-faced. > > I have a feeling Zosia is going to end up being broken off from the hive as a result of this. And crying. I noticed on third viewing after someone else pointed it out that their faces were actually wet with tears. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/306 "2025-11-24T03:10:25Z")
> [@Meatwater](#): > > OTOH what if them attempting to have fun, is like when a person tries to tickle themselves. Where it just isn’t happening.. I can tickle my arms, especially on the insides of the elbows. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/307 "2025-11-24T03:30:35Z")
Maybe _turca_ does not mean much in Spanish… but these things are country dependent. I’m willing to believe if it means nothing to an Argentino it likely means nothing to someone from Paraguay. And “yo es turca” and “yo soy turca” are different, as pointed out. But “Carol es turca” as a form of “Carol está en una turca”¿? > **[turca meaning - Speaking Latino](https://www.speakinglatino.com/word/turca/)** # turca In Spanish slang, ‘turca’ is often used to refer to a persistent obsession or an activity someone is deeply engrossed in. It can also refer to a heavy drinking session (_meter una turca_). # Examples - **Spanish:** Estoy en una turca de leer libros de misterio. - **English:** I’m on a mystery book reading binge. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/308 "2025-11-24T04:40:16Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > I also wonder if they continue to act happy when they’re not around Carol In episode 2 we see Zosia and others with very neutral expressions while they go about their tasks. ---
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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > But “Carol es turca” as a form of “Carol está en una turca”¿? Doesn’t really work IMHO, “ser” (es) and “estar” (está) are different in Spanish. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/310 "2025-11-24T14:56:46Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > I have a feeling Zosia is going to end up being broken off from the hive as a result of this. It’s certainly possible that’s where they are heading, but it seems if it was that easy there would be a lot more people who weren’t part of the hivemind. ---
**Author:** ![Noelq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noelq/32/16438_2.png) [@Noelq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noelq)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/311 "2025-11-24T18:46:45Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > > [@Meltdown](#): > > > > On this subject, I was wondering what the hive mind does for fun. > > I also wonder if they continue to act happy when they’re not around Carol, or if that’s just for her benefit (and the other immune) You’re not thinking of this correctly. There is no longer a “self” to any of these people. They are just cells that support a mind, specifically the hive mind. E. G. you really don’t care if a cell of your left toenail is happy, or what it does. Its just… there, serving its function. These bodies mean NOTHING. They serve to maintain the hive mind. There’s no such thing as individuals any more, except for the 13. And I’m 99.99% certain there’s no way to get an individual back again. Once you add a drop of water to a bucket, there’s literally no way to get back the individual molecules that made up that drop. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/312 "2025-11-24T19:41:34Z")
> [@Noelq](#): > > There’s no such thing as individuals any more, except for the 13. And I’m 99.99% certain there’s no way to get an individual back again. Once you add a drop of water to a bucket, there’s literally no way to get back the individual molecules that made up that drop. Except with her non-lie, Zosia revealed that there is some way to reverse it. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/313 "2025-11-24T19:43:18Z")
FYI, Apple announced that the next episode will be coming out on **Wednesday** this week. I’m not sure if that means Wednesday or Tuesday night though. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/314 "2025-11-24T19:54:18Z")
Wednesday means Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/315 "2025-11-24T20:05:14Z")
About 9:00 pm Eastern time Tuesday if memory serves. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/316 "2025-11-24T22:12:04Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > I gotta say though - I wouldn’t have pegged Carol or even Helen as people to have the DVD collections of _The Golden Girls_? Are they trying to tell us something about her character that that’s her go-to apocalyptic times show, specifically focusing on Betty White’s clueless but happy Rose telling stories? I know this is from a few days ago but really? Middle-aged lesbians are exactly the people I’d think would have GG on DVD. I mean, Carol isn’t the sort of person we would think would be writing bodice-rippers either but there she is. Helen seems pretty cool and fun, I think Carol turned sour as she got older. GG is also a good post-party-comedown show. I can see the pair having it on DVD to chill out to. Who DO you think would have Golden Girls on DVD? Like, someone less uptight? I think GG has a favorite character for everyone! ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/317 "2025-11-24T23:04:50Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > About 9:00 pm Eastern time Tuesday if memory serves. Good, I don’t have to worry about trying to watch (and explain) this with my in-laws. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/318 "2025-11-24T23:28:15Z")
My guess is that releasing the episode on Wednesday (or really Tuesday evening) is a one-time thing because of the holiday but that is the same time when episodes of other shows are released. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2025, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/319 "2025-11-24T23:30:04Z")
I don’t think of ANYONE owning a DVD set of Golden Girls. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2025, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/320 "2025-11-25T05:32:28Z")
Oh wow! It’s such a popular show. Surprised you don’t know anyone who likes it. My friends and I love it! I used to watch it every day with my business partner and he’s a dude 10 years my senior. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659.md?page=17)