# Pluribus (New Vince Gilligan show on AppleTV) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, apple\ **Created:** [November 7, 2025, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659 "2025-11-07T12:10:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/441 "2025-11-28T21:57:12Z")
I saw produce (watermelon, etc) in that store room. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/442 "2025-11-28T22:25:27Z")
Mmmmm… watermelon-flavored people… ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/443 "2025-11-28T22:36:20Z")
It’s still only been about a week, there’s plenty of non soylent food around. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/444 "2025-11-29T05:36:09Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > In the flashback at the ice hotel, Carol says something about how she “could have saved 100 grand and frozen my eggs here.” > > I assume it wasn’t actually a throw-away line, and the existence of eggs from an immune person will have significance at some point. Nice catch! I think you’re exactly correct. Eggs to save the day! ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/445 "2025-11-29T06:12:19Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > _Scientific_ progress could go through the roof. But that’s not an antidote to cultural stagnation. This culture is totally different from your (and my) culture. It’s completely alien in its needs and wants. To the pod people, this situation is ideal for their culture. To them, this is not stagnation at all. Instead it’s a time of wonderous growth. It’s the opposite of stagnation . ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/446 "2025-11-29T12:31:47Z")
There is no culture. Culture is gone. They are all one big organism and each person is a cell. The other immunes have not internalized this because they want to pretend their loved ones are still there but Carol has. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/447 "2025-11-29T13:36:35Z")
Yeh, and I think it’s only a matter of time before it starts to dawn on some of the other immune. I’m looking at you, Laxmi. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/448 "2025-11-29T13:51:31Z")
Presuming the Others know about the eggs, maybe the plan is to impregnate some of their women with Carol’s kids. Maybe as leverage? I don’t know I’m just speculating about possible shocking twists. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/449 "2025-11-29T14:06:10Z")
Or, using Carol-Clones to experiment on to try and cure her immunity. But, I dunno. Baby factories, clones, alien spawns, extraterrestrial spores, etc… All that just feels so far afield of the more grounded, subtle sci-fi Gilligan has stated as his intent for this show. I’d be surprised if he went that over-the-top with the genre. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/450 "2025-11-29T14:07:58Z")
I was wondering what happens when or if Mr. Air Force One/Vegas impregnates one of the hundreds of models he’s banging. Are they doing anything to prevent that or encourage it? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/451 "2025-11-29T14:12:17Z")
We do get a peek of him in this upcoming episode. I’m curious what he’s been up to and how the hive has been “accommodating” him. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/452 "2025-11-29T14:17:13Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > There is no culture. Culture is gone. They are all one big organism and each person is a cell. I’m not convinced either of those things have been inexplicably established yet nor that one implies the other. In fact, “happiness” is perhaps the number one goal of most art and culture. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/453 "2025-11-29T14:53:36Z")
As everyone knows The Borg are well known for their poetry. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/454 "2025-11-29T15:10:05Z")
Better than the Vogans. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/455 "2025-11-29T20:33:19Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > As everyone knows The Borg are well known for their poetry. I’ll be very disappointed if this show doesn’t defy all of the tired old _Star Trek_ expectations you and others in this thread have about the nature of this collective. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/456 "2025-11-29T21:24:26Z")
I am sorry but everything about the hive is terrifying. There is no way what has happened to humanity is a good thing. They don’t have to be the Borg (that was a joke) but I am 100% with Carol: people need to be freed from this. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/457 "2025-11-29T22:06:10Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > In fact, “happiness” is perhaps the number one goal of most art and culture. That could be a good GD thread but I certainly don’t think so. I think communication is. Of ideas of emotions of the ineffable … of something that we are not even sure what we are trying to express until we express it, and communicating only with ourself. When we are one vast overmind? How that mind “thinks” would not be understandable to we individual cells of it even if we maintain a sense of individuality. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/458 "2025-11-29T22:28:03Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > This culture is totally different from your (and my) culture. It’s completely alien in its needs and wants. To the pod people, this situation is ideal for their culture. To them, this is not stagnation at all. Instead it’s a time of wonderous growth. It’s the opposite of stagnation . Specifically I don’t think calling it a culture would be accurate anymore. It is a metaorganism that is completely alien in its needs and wants created out of individual minds by way of an alien infection imposed upon them without prior consent. The presumption is that a previous such individual metaorganism has reproduced by infecting humanity if not other sentences species. And it is currently trying to make the “immune” happy and is itself disturbed when Carol tantrums. It prefers to not intentionally kill. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/459 "2025-11-29T22:59:22Z")
Does anyone else feel like Helen not even bothering to finish reading Carol’s book was a complete asshole move? specially since they seemed to work together. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659/460 "2025-11-29T23:27:06Z")
A mild one. From the business partner POV she read enough to make her assessment: not gonna sell much, won’t tank the series line’s popularity, will make her happy to publish it. But as life partner POV? I think honest feedback that it doesn’t grab her as a reader would have been better … But isn’t that the point? Helen tried to make grumpy Carol happy. Enabled her drinking. The collective at least started out the same way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pluribus-new-vince-gilligan-show-on-appletv/1024659.md?page=24)