# PM and Pres. in porno parody precipitates pugnacious political polemic in parliament.

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**Created:** [August 16, 2005, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180 "2005-08-16T01:21:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/1 "2005-08-16T01:21:16Z")

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[Link](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050815/PORN15/TPInternational/TopStories).

Going into production next week: A porn film written and produced by the deputy leader of a Russian political party, that depicts in glorious colour the imaginary sexual dalliances between [Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko](http://www.somethinglike.net/images/tymo.jpg) and [Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili](http://www.larrymudd.com/images/saakashvili.jpg).

(Word is that the Ukrainians are planning to produce a Putinesque guy-on-guy flick in retaliation. Can we get Jimmy Carter involved to prevent further escalation? Where will it end?)

WARNING: Link below may not be work-safe, if you work with prudes. (Suggestive bikini shot.)

> [@The Globe & Mail](#):
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> A Black Shark helicopter will be rented for the filming, [Hardcore actress [Elena Berkova](http://www.larrymudd.com/images/elena_berkova.jpg)’s producer, Alexander Valov] said. The modern Russian attack helicopter is armoured against 12.7-millimetre bullets, which could be useful if Mr. Valov follows through on his intention to film the climactic love scene in the air above the Pankisi Gorge, an area still racked by battles between Chechen fighters and Russian security forces.

I thought Canadian politics was weird.

Wow.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/2 "2005-08-16T01:28:38Z")

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Aren’t all love scenes in porn flicks climactic? I rather thought that was the point.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/3 "2005-08-16T01:56:28Z")

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Ooooo-kayy…

… I suppose we should be happy that they’ve taken to democracy and free speech so, um, enthusiastically.

Hey, how come when WE got a movie putting down the Head of State, we had to make do with that Michael Moore thing? THIS is the way you do it, man… I mean, c’mon, sex aboard a gunship helicopter! That’s ART, dude! It makes a STATEMENT (namely, “we’ll do anything for cash”).

(??And is Madam PM in that first picture announcing she’s in the lead of the Women’s Tour de France?? 😛 )

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/4 "2005-08-16T01:59:19Z")

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In Russia, porn movie masturbates to you!

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/5 "2005-08-16T02:05:24Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> (??And is Madam PM in that first picture announcing she’s in the lead of the Women’s Tour de France?? 😛 )

No idea 'bout the story behind that one.

One’s thing’s for sure, though, she’s pretty hot, even when she’s [dressed for work](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/euterpe35/style/Yulia_Tymoshenko1.jpg). _Grrrrrrrlll._

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/6 "2005-08-16T02:28:21Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> No idea 'bout the story behind that one.
> 
> One’s thing’s for sure, though, she’s pretty hot, even when she’s [dressed for work](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/euterpe35/style/Yulia_Tymoshenko1.jpg). _Grrrrrrrlll._

All Russians are. That’s why there’s such a booming business in mail-order brides.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/7 "2005-08-16T02:58:55Z")

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I’ve got to admit that eastern European wimmens are often mind-numbingly attractive.

Is… [is that a _riding crop_ that she’s holding?](http://www.larrymudd.com/images/yulia_o-face.jpg)

**wipes sweat from brow**

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/8 "2005-08-16T03:20:16Z")

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My favorite:

> [@Alexei Mitrofanov](#):
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> “Is the film The Interpreter propaganda or big cinema? Is the film JFK propaganda or big cinema? Why is it that in America these films are considered big cinema but films like this in Russia are considered propaganda? This is big cinema and I am a great master.”

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/9 "2005-08-16T03:54:14Z")

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To be fair, **ultrafilter** , you have to remember that European releases of American films are often significantly different cuts, and are [marketed a little differently](http://www.larrymudd.com/images/polish_interpreter_poster.gif), to suit European tastes.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/10 "2005-08-16T04:14:45Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> No idea 'bout the story behind that one.
> 
> One’s thing’s for sure, though, she’s pretty hot, even when she’s [dressed for work](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/euterpe35/style/Yulia_Tymoshenko1.jpg). _Grrrrrrrlll._

Oh. My. _God._

Fishnet sleeves? Leather brassards?

Okay, how much is she doing the dominatrix thing.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/11 "2005-08-16T04:48:59Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Hey, how come when WE got a movie putting down the Head of State, we had to make do with that Michael Moore thing? THIS is the way you do it, man… I mean, c’mon, sex aboard a gunship helicopter! That’s ART, dude! It makes a STATEMENT (namely, “we’ll do anything for cash”).

Think of the presidents we have had since the invention of the moving picture.

Now think of them having hot porno movie sex.

By the time you’re done cleaning up the vomit, you’ll have the answer to your question.

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/12 "2005-08-16T14:15:57Z")

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I dunno, if we had done it when Dubya was younger…

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**Author:** ![Draelin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce73a5/32.png) [@Draelin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Draelin)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/13 "2005-08-16T14:20:41Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> In Russia, porn movie masturbates to you!

Damn! I _really_ thought I was going to get to this first. _sigh_

And **CD** , this is the very first time you’ve disturbed me. Congrats. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/14 "2005-08-16T14:52:49Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Hey, how come when WE got a movie putting down the Head of State, we had to make do with that Michael Moore thing?

I’m suprised we haven’t seen a “Bill Clinton Presidential Sex Tape” yet.

Also, that _is_ the hottest prime minister I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/15 "2005-08-16T17:40:33Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Aren’t all love scenes in porn flicks climactic? I rather thought that was the point.

Except, of course, for that cinematic classic, _Blue Balls: The Movie_.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/16 "2005-08-16T18:00:13Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Hey, how come when WE got a movie putting down the Head of State…

huh huh…shouldn’t that be pu **sh** ing? uh…huh huh.

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**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2005, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/17 "2005-08-16T18:54:26Z")

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Geez, you give these Eastern European folks a little democracy, and what happens?  
Yep, you guessed it.

Penis ensues.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/18 "2005-08-18T02:46:30Z")

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More [news from the Ukraine](http://www.news24.com/News24/Backpage/BetweenTheSheets/0,5583,2-1343-1346_1755284,00.html) today:

> [@](#):
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> The talk of the town in Kiev during the sleepy summer weeks this year has centered on hundreds of billboards in the city that, with their dash of sexual innuendo, have outraged some, amused others, and are quickly entering the national lexicon.
> 
> “There should be 52 million of us! Kokhaimosya!” declares one version plastered throughout the capital of a country that’s currently 48 million souls strong.
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> Roughly translated, the key last word in the ad means “let’s love one another,” but its undertone connotation of “let’s make love” has set off a storm of discussion here, including in the highest offices of the ex-Soviet land.
> 
> “What is that supposed to mean? That we should all fuck?” an indignant Kiev mayor Olexander Omelchenko railed recently at a top government meeting, as Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko giggled, according to an official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

No idea why the image of [this guy](http://provokator.com.ua/n/2005/03/25/080317.html) getting his rocks off would provoke giggles. Vulva the Orange Revolution!

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2005, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pm-and-pres-in-porno-parody-precipitates-pugnacious-political-polemic-in-parliament/317180/19 "2005-08-18T02:59:22Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> One’s thing’s for sure, though, she’s pretty hot, even when she’s [dressed for work](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v103/euterpe35/style/Yulia_Tymoshenko1.jpg). _Grrrrrrrlll._

Whoa. She’s got some major Goth thing going in this one. Now I need to provoke an attack by Ukraine so I can surrender.  
Bet that in the movie they’ll make a point that when she uncoils that braid she turns into a wild animal. So predictable 😃

> [@Otto](#):
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> Think of the presidents we have had since the invention of the moving picture.
> 
> Now think of them having hot porno movie sex.

Actually, I think there’s a public report somewhere that goes into detail describing a President getting his freak on…

But if we’re going back into the past, do I get to cast Jackie joining in in a foursome with Jack, Bobby and Marylin?

There WAS an Italian or Greek or somesuch production house who DID do a prn movie in '99 about Blowgate; but it’s not like it was a major production deliberately intended to diss the other country. These guys in the former USSR are taking it to the next level!
