# Point and laugh (and cringe) at the "cure" for morning sickness **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 18, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178 "2013-11-18T14:54:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/1 "2013-11-18T14:54:04Z")
I’m embarrassed to say how I even found this [blog post](http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-cause-and-cure-of-morning-sickness.html), but the whole thing is just a train wreck of stupidity. I’ll provide cliffs. > [@](#): > > I am beyond thrilled to tell you that I am certain I have FOUND both the underlying cause, as well as the cure for morning sickness, ranging anywhere from mild to severe. I will not have time to add all the scientific footnotes, study references, etc. that this knowledge is based upon. No footnotes? I’m stunned. > [@](#): > > The root cause of morning sickness (any severity): Heliobacter pylori > > H. pylori is a bacteria that lives in the stomachs of as many as half of the world’s population. Interestingly enough, one study found that 100% of women with HG that were biopsied tested positive for it. It’s just that simple, folks. > [@](#): > > Personally, I wanted to explore natural ways of trying to eradicate, or at least reduce, h. pylori before resorting to antibiotics. While I didn’t find anything relating to morning sickness specifically, many who suffer from negative effects due to h. pylori colonization have reported great success with **colloidal silver.** (bolding not mine). So there you go, pregnant women. Take colloidal silver. It’ll cure what ails you. But wait! There’s more. > [@](#): > > In addition to the colloidal silver, which will successfully combat h. pylori, even if it cannot completely eradicate it, the main key to keeping h. pylori in check is: **fermented foods and beverages**. Well hot damn, pregnant women crave pickles, right? Must be science! > [@](#): > > What is it that pregnant women are rumored to crave? Pickles! Oh shit, she’s serious. > [@](#): > > It should be noted that the ACOG (American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology) recommends NOT consuming fermented foods during pregnancy, which of course immediately confirms their effectiveness in my mind. I’m pretty sure that’s not even true, but the logic here is astounding – doctors recommend avoiding certain foods, which means _the exact opposite is probably the way to go._ The subtext here is that doctors are evil and in the market of big pharma, of course. Let’s continue… > [@](#): > > Carbs are often thought of as a culprit to morning sickness, and indeed, they can be, especially simple carbs. … White sugar and flour should be eliminated completely. Raw honey has, in my experience, not caused any negative effects as far as aggravating the h. pylori, so that is what I use. The truthiness is strong in this one. She goes on to describe how vitamin B and magnesium deficiencies blah blah blah, and a bunch of other garbage information. So how well has all this research and confidence worked? Surely this pregnant mom has been 100% on the go ever since she discovered the CURE for morning sickness, right? > [@](#): > > I was a bit anxious to try the cure on an actual pregnancy, with all the extreme hormonal swings that being pregnant entails. It has been a very interesting experiment! I wouldn’t say that I am having no nausea. About 50% of the time I feel normal, and the rest of the time I feel slightly green Praise Jesus, she’s cured! Half the time at least. Let’s finish with this gem: > [@](#): > > My daily routine is to drink a half cup or so of kombucha every morning upon waking, or to take 1 tablespoon of colloidal silver. I don’t do both because I think the CS might render the microorganisms in the kombucha ineffective. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/2 "2013-11-18T15:06:17Z")
And if you take too much colloidal silver during pregancy, you end up giving birth to [Papa Smurf](http://static.oprah.com/images/tows/200802/20080219/20080219_102_350x263.jpg)! Except this Papa Smurf will have an unpleasant survivalist streak in him… ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/3 "2013-11-18T15:09:27Z")
Wow. Just Wow. Of course, googling “colloidal silver in pregnancy” brings up a big bag of woo, but I did find [this article](http://health.howstuffworks.com/wellness/natural-medicine/alternative/colloidal-silver2.htm) giving some well sourced information. > [@](#): > > When taken orally, colloidal silver can also wreak havoc on proteins and make other medicines less effective. For pregnant women, colloidal silver poses risks to the unborn child, as fetal abnormalities may develop due to its use [source: Sloan-Kettering]. So, I guess your lady only cares about treating morning sickness (half the time), not about her developing fetus. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/4 "2013-11-18T16:15:56Z")
She’s breeding and breeding and breeding. I wonder if she’s got permission to use all those copyrighted images in her blog? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/5 "2013-11-18T17:42:47Z")
Should we tell her pickles aren’t fermented? ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/6 "2013-11-18T17:53:15Z")
If she was only hurting herself I wouldn’t care, she’d be just another moron. But she’s going to kill her child if she keeps this up. This is no different than whackjobs allowing kids to die because they think that prayer will cure them. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/7 "2013-11-18T19:05:46Z")
> [@Madame Woo](#): > > Interestingly enough, one study found that 100% of women with HG that were biopsied tested positive for it. I am not sure what the hell she means, but all the stomach biopsies I see that are positive for Helicobacter pylori occur in people with Helicobacter pylori, so she may actually be on target in this one instance. :dubious: You’d think that someone who reports feeling nauseous half the time would get an inkling that her miracle cure for morning sickness isn’t working so well, but apparently she just hasn’t fermented enough. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/8 "2013-11-18T21:11:22Z")
> [@picunurse](#): > > So, I guess your lady only cares about treating morning sickness (half the time), not about her developing fetus. You clearly missed the logic of the OP. The fact that a reputable medical source says it harms the fetus is evidence that it helps the fetus. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/9 "2013-11-18T21:30:21Z")
Well clearly, since all medical experts say that drilling a hole in your head is a bad idea, it must be extremely beneficial! ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/10 "2013-11-18T21:32:23Z")
Whoa, that chick is seriously coo coo. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/11 "2013-11-18T22:36:48Z")
> [@Woo-believing lady](#): > > Personally, I wanted to explore natural ways of trying to eradicate, or at least reduce, h. pylori before resorting to antibiotics. While I didn’t find anything relating to morning sickness specifically, many who suffer from negative effects due to h. pylori colonization have reported great success with **colloidal silver**. Why is “colloidal silver” more “natural” than antibiotics? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/12 "2013-11-18T23:03:01Z")
Because you don’t need a prescription, duh! ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/13 "2013-11-18T23:38:23Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > And if you take too much colloidal silver during pregancy, you end up giving birth to [Papa Smurf](http://static.oprah.com/images/tows/200802/20080219/20080219_102_350x263.jpg)! Except this Papa Smurf will have an unpleasant survivalist streak in him… Awesome! I propose a bill mandating all insurance providers pay for colloidal silver during pregnancy for every man, woman, child, or other. ---
**Author:** ![california\_jobcase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@california\_jobcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/california_jobcase)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/14 "2013-11-19T15:06:23Z")
It’s Heli_ **c** _obacter pylori, btw- ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/15 "2013-11-19T18:36:15Z")
So who’s going over there to fight her ignorance? Anyone?.. Anyone?.. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/16 "2013-11-19T18:56:27Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Because you don’t need a prescription, duh! …and if you she uses too much, she’ll be crapping change for a week? _ **Yeee-uuuah…Aaaaah…AAAAAAH!** _ “Honey, you OK in there…?” “F-cking Kennedy half dollars…Grrrrr!” ---
**Author:** ![llcoolbj77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@llcoolbj77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/llcoolbj77)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/17 "2013-11-19T19:41:06Z")
I know its true of almost every topic under the sun… but it seems to me there is some serious CRAY-CRAY on the intrawebz about pregnancy. Access to the internet is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than access to good prenatal care. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/18 "2013-11-19T19:42:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Should we tell her pickles aren’t fermented? Well, the vinegar based ones aren’t, but there’s all sorts of “sour pickle” recipes that are indeed fermented. But I’ll grant you that what the vinegar-preserved sort are what most folks think of when they think “pickles.” > [@Jackmannii](#): > > I am not sure what the hell she means, but all the stomach biopsies I see that are positive for Helicobacter pylori occur in people with Helicobacter pylori, so she may actually be on target in this one instance. :dubious: I think your misreading one of her abbreviations. HG doesn’t mean H. pylori, because pylori doesn’t start with a G. Presumably she means hyperemesis gravidarum, or severe morning sickness. Of course, I’m not sure why you’d biopsy someone with that for H. pylori unless they had pre-existing issues, or why you’d biopsy to test for it (when they tested me, I just had to shit in a tub), or how you’d ferret out the numbers on patients who had biopsies specifically for HG. ---
**Author:** ![llcoolbj77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@llcoolbj77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/llcoolbj77)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/19 "2013-11-19T19:48:42Z")
Holy shit balls, that blog is crazy. Wow. Just wow. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/20 "2013-11-19T20:00:31Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > Of course, I’m not sure why you’d biopsy someone with that for H. pylori unless they had pre-existing issues, or why you’d biopsy to test for it (when they tested me, I just had to shit in a tub), or how you’d ferret out the numbers on patients who had biopsies specifically for HG. It’s all out there! She’s just way too busy to provide cites or footnotes. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178.md?page=2)