# Point and laugh (and cringe) at the "cure" for morning sickness **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 18, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178 "2013-11-18T14:54:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/21 "2013-11-19T21:38:31Z")
I’m no doctor, but I think the cause of morning sickness is pregnancy. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/22 "2013-11-19T21:57:39Z")
> [@Rachellelogram](#): > > I’m no doctor, but I think the cause of morning sickness is pregnancy. I’m no doctor, but I think they know the leading cause of pregnancy as well. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/23 "2013-11-19T22:33:33Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > I’m embarrassed to say how I even found this [blog post](http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-cause-and-cure-of-morning-sickness.html), but the whole thing is just a train wreck of stupidity… OK, I’ll bite: how DID you stumble upon such a font of truth and knowledge? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/24 "2013-11-19T22:48:08Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > OK, I’ll bite: how DID you stumble upon such a font of truth and knowledge? Let’s just say “Facebook” and “blood relation”. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/25 "2013-11-19T23:23:50Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > Why is “colloidal silver” more “natural” than antibiotics? Werewolves ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/26 "2013-11-19T23:30:19Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Should we tell her pickles aren’t fermented? What the hell do you think they are, pickled? 😃 Pickling is actually a form of anaerobic fermentation. Fermentation is not just converting sugars to alcohol, it also covers conversion to acid. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/27 "2013-11-19T23:31:19Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I’m no doctor, but I think they know the leading cause of pregnancy as well. Beer? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/28 "2013-11-19T23:33:24Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Pickling is actually a form of anaerobic fermentation. Fermentation is not just converting sugars to alcohol, it also covers conversion to acid. Huh. Ignorance fought. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/29 "2013-11-20T03:24:47Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I’m no doctor, but I think they know the leading cause of pregnancy as well. Jack Daniels and jello shots? ---
**Author:** ![Khendrask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3e96dc/32.png) [@Khendrask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khendrask)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/30 "2013-11-20T04:42:40Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Let’s just say “Facebook” and “blood relation”. OT, but this is one of the big reason that I unfriended everyone on FB, and refuse all requests. I keep the account for some data sharing on useful apps, but I don’t want any of the BS. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/31 "2013-11-20T06:11:32Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Let’s just say “Facebook” and “blood relation”. I have a few pretty darn interesting relatives on FB, too. Some are blood relatives, some are by marriage. I don’t know which set is worse. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/32 "2013-11-20T14:26:32Z")
That’s a Hiding Their Feed if nothing else. And sitting at the opposite end of the table at family dinners. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/33 "2013-11-21T00:32:28Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > And if you take too much colloidal silver during pregancy, you end up giving birth to [Papa Smurf](http://static.oprah.com/images/tows/200802/20080219/20080219_102_350x263.jpg)! Except this Papa Smurf will have an unpleasant survivalist streak in him… Just look at it as tagging so you can tell which kids aren’t vaccinated. ---
**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/34 "2013-11-21T00:36:29Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Beer? And that’s why doctors want you to stay away from fermented products. If you KEEP drinking it, you end up with twins. ---
**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/35 "2013-11-21T01:27:59Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > And if you take too much colloidal silver during pregancy, you end up giving birth to [Papa Smurf](http://static.oprah.com/images/tows/200802/20080219/20080219_102_350x263.jpg)! Except this Papa Smurf will have an unpleasant survivalist streak in him… Actually “Papa Smurf” there is the result of a rare genetic trait being concentrated over several generations within a limited gene pool in a geographically diverse area. Google “the blue Fugates of Troublesome Creek, KY” or “methemoglobinemia” to learn more. It’s actually quite fascinating, IMHO. [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/36 "2013-11-21T01:31:35Z")
While methemoglobinemia does exist in Kentucky, often in association with the surname Fugate, the “papa smurf” in the link is NOT suffering from that disorder. He really did achieve that skin color via colloidal silver. His name is Paul Karason and his story made the rounds of the media a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/37 "2013-11-21T01:32:58Z")
> [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](#): > > Actually “Papa Smurf” there is the result of a rare genetic trait being concentrated over several generations within a limited gene pool in a geographically diverse area. Google “the blue Fugates of Troublesome Creek, KY” or “methemoglobinemia” to learn more. It’s actually quite fascinating, IMHO. > > [/hijack] That is 100% incorrect. The picture was of [Paul Karason](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-turned-blue-silver-dies-article-1.1466905) who famously promoted the use of colloidal silver. He recently died. ---
**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/38 "2013-11-21T02:29:23Z")
Oh wow, ignorance fought. I’ve only ever seen his picture lumped in with blue Fugate pictures and never had a back story. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/39 "2013-11-21T03:42:40Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I am not sure what the hell she means, but all the stomach biopsies I see that are positive for Helicobacter pylori occur in people with Helicobacter pylori, so she may actually be on target in this one instance. :dubious:… Actually the quote was > [@Madame Woo](#): > > Interestingly enough, one study found that 100% of women with HG that were biopsied tested positive for it. It references HG, which I assume means hyperemesis gravidarum (sp?), which means really really bad morning sickness. A biopsy is not routine in handling morning sickness of ANY level. If a woman’s symptoms were such that h pylori was suspected, then yeah, a significant percentage might well come up positive. But the rest. Egad, the stoopid, it BURNSSSSSSSS. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178/40 "2013-11-21T12:12:12Z")
Also, whenever someone references a percentage, your first thought should ALWAYS be, “what was the sample size?” 100% of 2 people and 100% of 40,000 people tell you different things. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-and-laugh-and-cringe-at-the-cure-for-morning-sickness/674178.md?page=3)