# Point of Order-Hate Speech in the Pit

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-of-order-hate-speech-in-the-pit/311150>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 5, 2005, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-of-order-hate-speech-in-the-pit/311150 "2005-07-05T16:50:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-of-order-hate-speech-in-the-pit/311150/521 "2005-07-28T22:03:42Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> Yes

Great. Now all you need to do is give a cite of the phrase’s ever having incited one of these things against white people, and I’ll agree that “white trash” might possibly fall under UNC Law School’s definition of hate speech, once we acknowledge that they don’t consider a website called “All men must die!” to fall under that definition.

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> And, respectfully, I cannot fathom how you would know that “_the overwhelming majority of people who use the phrase share the race of the target of the phrase, and do not hate the white race)._”

For pity’s sake–what do you THINK I’m basing it on? You won’t win the argument by saying, “nyah nyah–you didn’t use enough qualifiers!” I’m basing it, of course, on the many people whom I’ve observed using the phrase in real life and on the Internet.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/point-of-order-hate-speech-in-the-pit/311150/522 "2005-07-28T23:24:16Z")

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Hey, I found someone who agrees with **Contra**. [White-nationalist and former Grand Wizard David Duke](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke)!

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> [Teaching Tolerance: a teachers guide to understanding and correcting racial hatred in the classroom](http://www.davidduke.com/teaching_tolerance4.html)  
> “Honky,” “Cracker” or “White trash” are as equally offensive as the term “Nigger” and must not be tolerated.

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