# Pokemon Black and White **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 7, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753 "2011-03-07T04:59:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/41 "2011-03-21T14:12:24Z")
Victini has a cath rate of 3, which means that throwing an ordinary pokeball at him at his full HP has a 0.4% chance of catching him. Obviously the numbers go up using a better ball; I used Dusk Balls (3.5 x as effective as ordinary Poke Balls vs. Ultra Balls’ 2x effectiveness) and put him to sleep (2x as effective as awake vs. 1.5x for paralysis). Also, if a “try to catch 'em” battle goes on past 40 turns, switch to Timer Balls (4x on every turn past 40). Also not a terrible idea to try a Quick Ball (4x on first turn of battle only). On to other news. I beat the Elite Four, and captured legendaries Victini, Cobalion, Virizon, Terrakion, Thunderus (Master Ball!), and Kyurem. Now I am involved in tracking down the Seven Sages. I have three still at large. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/42 "2011-03-21T15:56:24Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I’ll ask my at-home expert if the theme of Pokemon autonomy has been explored before this current storyline. It was explored in the anime, for example I remember an episode where they ran into a whole tribe of Pikachus and Pikachu chose to stay with Ace. Spain was pika-pika-saturated for weeks after that episode, it seemed as if even people who hadn’t had a kid in the house since they were that kid somehow managed to catch it. ---
**Author:** ![HardlySanguine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HardlySanguine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HardlySanguine)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/43 "2011-03-24T06:52:00Z")
Wow, I didn’t realize I lucked out with Victini so much! He must’ve been in the red, but I caught him using my first ball - a great ball. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/44 "2011-03-24T14:28:15Z")
> [@HardlySanguine](#): > > Wow, I didn’t realize I lucked out with Victini so much! He must’ve been in the red, but I caught him using my first ball - a great ball. That was lucky indeed! I’ve been playing a bunch of battle subway battles now and am really liking the combination of Excadrill with Sand Rush (doubles Speed in a sandstorm) and Tyranitar as a lead-off batter to create the permanant sandstorm effect. Getting a single Swords Dance on Excadrill, combined with the sandstorm-boosted speed, means he can reliably slaughter a wide range of beasties with ease. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/45 "2011-05-11T13:35:51Z")
Is it too late to bump this up? I’m another adult playing (/sigh, why can’t I lay off these games?) looking for more contacts. I’m about at the 5th badge, I have a perfect ditto to breed (so if you guys do get competetive [I don’t know yet if I want to or not] I can breed some things up), and I was interested in finding out if we would / could get a casual battle league going. Any Takers? ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/46 "2011-05-11T14:07:58Z")
I’m playing, on and off, both games. I’ve gotten a little frustrated with it because the new scaling XP system means it’s harder to grind a particular Pokemon up to high levels. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/47 "2011-05-11T15:44:30Z")
I’m not playing as regularly as I used to, but I still pick it up now and then. I haven’t done any serious battling, so I probably suck at that. But I’d be happy to give it a shot sometime. Also, I have or can breed most non-legendary lines, so if you’re looking for something I’d be glad to trade. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/48 "2011-05-11T16:17:48Z")
I could probably use the white-exclusive standards (though, I have a petilil) and someone to trade with for evolutions, once I reach the point where I want to finish off the dex. I have an oshawott for trade with some decent stats, if you have a tepig. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/49 "2011-05-11T16:29:39Z")
> [@Koldanar](#): > > I could probably use the white-exclusive standards (though, I have a petilil) and someone to trade with for evolutions, once I reach the point where I want to finish off the dex. I have an oshawott for trade with some decent stats, if you have a tepig. I have all the starters, so I can breed you a Tepig, no problem. There’s still some Black exclusives I could use, but I don’t remember which off the top of my head. I’ll send you a PM when I get home tonight and we can work something out. ---
**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/50 "2011-05-12T12:24:34Z")
Thanks Trion; got a set of them all now myself. Sorry I was a little late, I thought I had one boxed, and it turned out not to be the case. ---
**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/51 "2011-05-12T12:30:28Z")
I’ll be keeping an eye out here in case anyone wants to battle or trade or anything. I’m totally game just so you guys know. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/52 "2011-05-12T13:04:32Z")
> [@Koldanar](#): > > Thanks Trion; got a set of them all now myself. Sorry I was a little late, I thought I had one boxed, and it turned out not to be the case. No problem, and thank you as well. And for everyone else, I’m just going post my White Friend code for future reference: 0819-3693-2141 I’m always up for future trades, battles or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/53 "2011-05-15T23:34:36Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > No problem, and thank you as well. > > And for everyone else, I’m just going post my White Friend code for future reference: > > 0819-3693-2141 > > I’m always up for future trades, battles or whatever. I have a reasonably solid battle team now. How does tomorrow evening work? ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/54 "2011-05-16T11:19:36Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I have a reasonably solid battle team now. How does tomorrow evening work? I have a battle team of whatever Pokeman I decide to use at any given moment and my strategy is mostly flailing around trying not to die. 😛 The only actual people I’ve battled before now are the random people the Global system matches me up with. And every time it looks like I might win, the other person mysteriously Looses the Connection. But sure, I’m willing to give it a shot. How does 9pm Eastern time sound? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/55 "2011-05-17T00:03:10Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > I have a battle team of whatever Pokeman I decide to use at any given moment and my strategy is mostly flailing around trying not to die. 😛 > > The only actual people I’ve battled before now are the random people the Global system matches me up with. And every time it looks like I might win, the other person mysteriously Looses the Connection. > > But sure, I’m willing to give it a shot. How does 9pm Eastern time sound? 9 PM Eastern works for me! Again, I’m “Bricker,” 0518 6546 9176 . Anything goes, or no legendaries? ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/56 "2011-05-17T00:24:41Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > 9 PM Eastern works for me! > > Again, I’m “Bricker,” 0518 6546 9176 . > > Anything goes, or no legendaries? I can go with no legendaries, sure. I’m also planning a flat battle if that’s OK. See you in a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/57 "2011-05-17T00:50:21Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > I can go with no legendaries, sure. I’m also planning a flat battle if that’s OK. > > See you in a bit. Flat battle is fine! I’m in and waiting… ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/58 "2011-05-17T01:03:32Z")
Retaliate is a Normal move, not good against a Steel type. And my Excadrill had Sand Rush, which meant that during a sandstorm, his speed doubles. Let me know if you’d like a rematch! ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/59 "2011-05-17T01:07:15Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Retaliate is a Normal move, not good against a Steel type. > > And my Excadrill had Sand Rush, which meant that during a sandstorm, his speed doubles. > > Let me know if you’d like a rematch! I wasn’t really thinking with the Retaliate move. As soon as I selected it I knew it was wrong. At least it wasn’t a total sweep. I would like to do this again sometine, but I promised the wife only one battle tonight before family time. Maybe later in the week? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753/60 "2011-05-17T01:09:40Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > I wasn’t really thinking with the Retaliate move. As soon as I selected it I knew it was wrong. > > At least it wasn’t a total sweep. > > I would like to do this again sometine, but I promised the wife only one battle tonight before family time. Maybe later in the week? Absolutely! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-black-and-white/573753.md?page=4)