# Pokemon X and Y **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 13, 2013, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126 "2013-10-13T06:59:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![mage-girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mage-girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mage-girl)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/101 "2013-12-19T02:19:30Z")
Hi Bricker! Sorry for the delay in responding. I am in Omaha, NE. I don’t know what Midwest Vivillions are going to look like, do you? I would love to trade for a “Modern” Vivillion, however, I don’t think I’ll have anything that is going to be useful to you. Only one of my Pokemon has evolved so far. I think it was my Caterpie. Kakuna, blech. Let me know what you’re thinking. If we need to I can try to coordinate with you a time where we can both be online to trade. 🙂 > [@Bricker](#): > > May I ask where you are, geographically? > > I ask because my son is trying to collect all the different forms of Vivillon. Those Scatterbugs you might have caught in Santalune Forest on your way to the first gym will evolve into Spewpas and ultimately Vivillons at level 14 – but the Vivillons will look different based on your country and state. In Virginia, our Vivillons are “Modern” forme – red and blue. California and Arizona have a brownish-green “High Plains,” coloration to their Vivillons. New England has a striking blue and white “Polar.” > > So – can I ask where you are, down to the state? And more to the point; if you don’t have the “Modern,” Vivillon, would you care to trade Vivillons? ---
**Author:** ![mage-girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mage-girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mage-girl)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/102 "2013-12-19T06:07:07Z")
Hi Bricker! UPDATE: I now have a Vivillion for you. It’s level 12. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/103 "2013-12-19T14:06:15Z")
And now I discover that apparently, a lot of the berries are randomly available from background trees in wild Pokemon encounters, if you use the right move! Tch. Well, that’ll speed up the Berry collection, at least… ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/104 "2013-12-19T18:13:49Z")
> [@mage-girl](#): > > Hi Bricker! > > UPDATE: I now have a Vivillion for you. It’s level 12. 🙂 Rats. Nebraska’s Vivillons are apparently also Modern. Well, no problem – if you’re interested in seeing some other forms, I’ll still trade you – I have a nice Ocean Vivillon looking for a good home. When would be a good time? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/105 "2013-12-19T18:16:53Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > And now I discover that apparently, a lot of the berries are randomly available from background trees in wild Pokemon encounters, if you use the right move! Tch. Well, that’ll speed up the Berry collection, at least… Yup – when you see a tree in the background during your wild battle, it has (faintly) three berries of a certain color visible. Use Air Slash and they fall down and can be recovered after the battle. If you see a sheaf of grass, that also produces items. In the north, if you see a pile of snow, using Rock Slide in the battle produces items (only a Snowball, so far). ---
**Author:** ![mage-girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mage-girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mage-girl)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/106 "2013-12-19T18:47:20Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Rats. Nebraska’s Vivillons are apparently also Modern. > > Well, no problem – if you’re interested in seeing some other forms, I’ll still trade you – I have a nice Ocean Vivillon looking for a good home. > > When would be a good time? I could be on tonight from 7-9pm CST. Does that work? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/107 "2013-12-19T18:54:32Z")
> [@mage-girl](#): > > I could be on tonight from 7-9pm CST. Does that work? Absolutely. See you then. Remember to be connected to the Internet in the game…! ---
**Author:** ![mage-girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mage-girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mage-girl)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/108 "2013-12-19T18:57:45Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Absolutely. See you then. > > Remember to be connected to the Internet in the game…! All righty! Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/109 "2013-12-20T14:25:56Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yup – when you see a tree in the background during your wild battle, it has (faintly) three berries of a certain color visible. Use Air Slash and they fall down and can be recovered after the battle. > > If you see a sheaf of grass, that also produces items. > > In the north, if you see a pile of snow, using Rock Slide in the battle produces items (only a Snowball, so far). I found a master list on [serebii.net](http://serebii.net). Has all the possible background props, and the moves that can trigger them - now I have a complete set of berries (except the ones totally unavailable in the game) and I got the extra Thunder Stone I wanted. Now back to hunting Dawn and Shiny Stones… ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/110 "2013-12-20T17:49:17Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > I found a master list on [serebii.net](http://serebii.net). Has all the possible background props, and the moves that can trigger them - now I have a complete set of berries (except the ones totally unavailable in the game) and I got the extra Thunder Stone I wanted. > > Now back to hunting Dawn and Shiny Stones… You have Kee and Maranga berries? Straf and Lansat? ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/111 "2013-12-20T18:49:22Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You have Kee and Maranga berries? Straf and Lansat? Effectively yes on Kee and Maranga, and no, on Starf and Lansat. Serebii says Starf and Lansat are available at the Battle Maison, but… I don’t see them in the list of stuff to buy, so I am puzzled. Kee and Maranga are available through mutations, though, and my trees should be producing them tomorrow, I think. I mean, if the mutation rate is the same for them as the other berries, then I will have six of each really soon. I have the right combos planted with Surprise Mulch. And if not, hopefully I’ll get at least one out of the batch, of each. ---
**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/112 "2013-12-20T19:01:19Z")
Has anyone got any speed-boost Venipede? I just started playing, so I don’t have much to offer in exchange, but I’ll do what I can to make a good offer. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/113 "2013-12-20T21:04:07Z")
> [@CandidGamera](#): > > Effectively yes on Kee and Maranga, and no, on Starf and Lansat. Serebii says Starf and Lansat are available at the Battle Maison, but… I don’t see them in the list of stuff to buy, so I am puzzled. Kee and Maranga are available through mutations, though, and my trees should be producing them tomorrow, I think. I mean, if the mutation rate is the same for them as the other berries, then I will have six of each really soon. I have the right combos planted with Surprise Mulch. > > And if not, hopefully I’ll get at least one out of the batch, of each. They are available at the Battle Maison, but not for BP. One hundred consecutive wins gets you a Lansat; 200 gets you a Starf. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/114 "2013-12-27T23:14:33Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > They are available at the Battle Maison, but not for BP. One hundred consecutive wins gets you a Lansat; 200 gets you a Starf. Oh good lord. I probably won’t have those unless someone trades them to me; I’m not a fan of the Battle Maison. ---
**Author:** ![Jesse\_Pinkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@Jesse\_Pinkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesse_Pinkman)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/115 "2013-12-28T18:54:07Z")
I bit the bullet and bought a 3DS XL + Pokemon X. I feel silly playing it at 26 sometimes but this game is digital crack. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/116 "2013-12-30T18:45:39Z")
> [@Jesse\_Pinkman](#): > > I bit the bullet and bought a 3DS XL + Pokemon X. I feel silly playing it at 26 sometimes but this game is digital crack. Share your Friend Code! Look, I suspect there are a bunch of people who were younger teens (or tweens) in 1998 who played Pokemon Red/Blue for the GameBoy when it came out…and now, in 2013, are in their mid-twenties and feel silly still liking a franchise they enjoyed before they could drive. And there are early-twenties folks who were Pokemaniacs in third grade and feel even sillier about the game now, perhaps. But here’s the genius of Pokemon: it has something for everyone. To borrow liberally from a [YouTube commentator](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fimCSqVOxl4) of no small insight, as a little kid you raised a Charizard with Ember, Flamthrower, Tackle,and Dragon Rage, because those moves sounded cool. Now, as an adult, you can IV-breed a Charizard with 31 Special Attack and Speed, EV train it with 252’s in each category, and Fire Blast, Air Slash, Hidden Power (ensuring Grass typing), and Flamethrower, because you know that gives you decent type coverage and is part of your well-rounded team. I’m over 50. That means that I was well past being a kid when Pokemon Red came on the scene, and I was moreover not an electronic gamer at all – so it completely slipped beneath my radar. My son heard about Pokemon from his friends in second grade, 2005, and so I got him Coliseum on the Gamecube. The first time I played was with him, helping him catch Suicune from a pesky trainer. He got Diamond when it came out, and I watched him gain sophistication about physical vs. special attacks, catch rates for wild Pokemon, and by osmosis I gained more interest in the game. He convinced us to go to New York for the launch party of Black and White, mainly because he wanted the game a day early! Now he has played through Y – and I own a 3DS and have played through X! He’s a bit sensitive to the “too old” issue now, and doesn’t reveal his continuing love for the game to friends who have grown out of it, because after all, Pokemon is for second graders! But he knows a few kids in his current grade – seventh – who still play. And he and I trade and battle. Using my adult insight and sophistication, my superior grasp of game mechanics and the underlying math, I can usually beat him in single battles now. Yet he still regularly beats me in double battles! Ungrateful kid. Anyway, the above confessional is intended to say to you, 26-year-old, that I’m a fifty-plus year old professional thrilled out of proportion at the prospect of breeding a 31/31/x/31/31/31 Adamant Shroomish with chained egg moves. How’s that for perspective? ---
**Author:** ![mage-girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@mage-girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mage-girl)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/117 "2013-12-30T19:00:57Z")
I was in my twenties when Pokemon came out on the Game Boy Color. I had Pokemon Yellow. Loved Pikachu, still do. My friends and I all got addicted for a while. Now I’m 43. Hadn’t played Pokemon at all since then. But I started hearing about Pokemon X and Y and how much fun people are having with it. And seeing little videos of people interacting with their Pokemon, giving them treats and such. My first thought - Ridiculous! My second thought - I want this game!!! 🙂 Now, once they get the Pokebank up and running (and STABLE), I’m even considering getting both editions of Pokemon White so I can swap those Pokemon into X/Y. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/118 "2014-01-08T16:40:30Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Anyway, the above confessional is intended to say to you, 26-year-old, that I’m a fifty-plus year old professional thrilled out of proportion at the prospect of breeding a 31/31/x/31/31/31 Adamant Shroomish with chained egg moves. How’s that for perspective? Just noticed that that should read, “… a 31/31/31/x/31/31 Adamant Shroomish…” My Breloom is now 100, EV’d with 252 A, 252 Speed, 6 HP, and knows Focus Punch. Yeah, try meeting him in a dark alley! ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/119 "2014-01-08T18:15:45Z")
I believe I fought your breloom before. He can go to hell. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126/120 "2014-01-08T19:52:25Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > I believe I fought your breloom before. He can go to hell. Yeah, I think that might have been Bricker Jr’s Breloom, from whom I shamelessly stole that Spore/Sub/Punch/repeat tactic. Poison Heal Breloom holding Toxic Orb recovers 1/8 HP every turn, so I can keep Substituting and never run out of HP. He _is_ annoying, isn’t he? 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pokemon-x-and-y/671126.md?page=7)