# Poker N00b Help

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poker-n00b-help/330364>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 10, 2005, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poker-n00b-help/330364 "2005-11-10T06:42:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![John\_F](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/43a26b/32.png) [@John\_F](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_F)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poker-n00b-help/330364/41 "2005-11-13T20:01:44Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> I don’t play re-buy or add-on tournaments so I’m wondering of those who do how the advice you gave would have changed had we known up-front there was a re-buy and an add-on.

Good point.

The re-buy is one thing but the T7000 add on is a major consideration.

I would never play this game for $40 and give up the T7000 for $10. I used to think there was a case for buying in with $20 and trying to cash without any rebuys (and there is) but my style isn’t to move that fast so now I simply consider this a $50 game.

I have not found any live games that don’t have rebuy/add-ons because it increases the money and allows players a “second chance”. It’s fairly standard in my area to have one rebuy and one add-on so I’m used to that structure but would not play in any unlimited rebuy games it’s far too wild. An add on for 3x the chips at 1/2 price seems funky but it looks like they want to boost the payouts.

My advice is to consider this a $50 game next time and you can no longer just coast to the final table when stacks could range from T200 to T11000 + in the first hour alone. Playing tight and coasting in would be a viable strategy at the 8 man table where everybody had T2000 but now if anybody does the rebuy/add-on it’s going to take a lot more work.

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**Author:** ![Greenback](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/2bfe46/32.png) [@Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greenback)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poker-n00b-help/330364/42 "2005-11-17T05:39:30Z")

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Thanks for all the responses.

> [@Otto](#):
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> Ugh. What an idiot, to call off everything with those rags just so that if he lost he could re-buy? Moron.

Thanks. That’s what I thought.

> [@Otto](#):
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> Boy, I’ll bet you were regretting giving him that tip earlier. Actually I’m surprised no one objected to that at the time. I would have.

I was not aware that that is not poker etiquette. I will make a note for next time.

> [@Otto](#):
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> I agree with what everyone’s said already about the move with the A7. Your read on the other player was spot on and you called with at best one overcard and no straight possibilities. Maybe you were putting too much value on the suitedness? Being on the button you had a couple of hands before you had to pay the blinds again and you should have waited for a better spot.

It seems that you are correct **Otto** in that I put too much weight in to the suitedness. I definitely thought the flush had possibilities.

You guys are making this hand far too painfully clear that I miscalculated 

> [@Otto](#):
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> I’m confused about the final hand as you describe it though. Two players acted before you (the call and the raise) and you were on the button, meaning that there were two players left to act after you (the blinds) and you went out 4th on that hand when there were five people left?

I set this out wrong. I was the small blind.

1-raise (this was the guy who put me out)  
2 (button)- call  
3 (me) – all-in  
4 (BB) – fold  
1 – call  
2 (button) – fold

Sorry for the error although I don’t think it changes much. I should not have moved all in with my A-7s against what I correctly read as a mid-pocket air.  
Thanks again. I had a blast.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2005, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/poker-n00b-help/330364/43 "2005-11-17T06:12:22Z")

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> [@Greenback](#):
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> I was not aware that that is not poker etiquette. I will make a note for next time.

I can only speak to my personal feelings as opposed to “poker etiquette” but I would object to any chips changing hands outside of a pot.

> [@Greenback](#):
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> It seems that you are correct **Otto** in that I put too much weight in to the suitedness. I definitely thought the flush had possibilities.

The chance of making a flush by the river is 6.4%. Unless you’re playing against me and I have pocket Kings, in which case your chances are approximately 100%. And I’m not just saying that because I got busted out of two single table tournaments today holding pocket KK against suited cards. Really.

Anyways, my bitterness aside, glad again to hear you had fun and I hope you’ll keep playing and enjoying yourself.

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