Police Body Cams

Just saw this article today

The officer, who has not been charged with a crime, was responding to an emergency call and was in a 25 mph zone at the time of the collision. Kandula had the right of way and was struck by the cruiser at approximately 63 mph, according to the report.

In the body camera footage published on Monday, Seattle officer Daniel Auderer, who was not involved in the January collision, was captured in the video saying, “but she is dead” and laughing while on the phone.

“She was 26 anyway,” Auderer said in the video. “She had limited value.”

So you don’t count the ones that look the other way, or even don’t look the other way but don’t bother to report it? Do those count as Good cops, or Bad cops?

“Auderer is the vice president of the Seattle Police Officers Guild, the largest law enforcement labor union in the Northwest.”, according to your link.

Look the other way for what? Getting a free cup of coffee? Getting payola from a drug cartel?

No, cops don’t rat cops out for minor things, just like employees in cube farms don’t rat out Bob who takes home pens for his kids.

They do take corruption seriously.

Really? The cases where the bad cop is turned in by the supposedly good cops are pretty damn hard to find, in my opinion. Also, in regard to police body cams, the Portland Police fought tooth-and-nail for years against their implementation, finally agreeing to a 60 day trial period that started this August. Only 150 Portland Police officers will be testing the camera. Would you like to know what a major sticking point was? The PoPo wanted the right to review the camera footage before writing out their reports after incidents. You know-Just to get their stories “straight”. :roll_eyes:
Portland’s long-awaited police body camera program launches this week: Here are 7 things to know - oregonlive.com

Nobody here, when talking about bad cops, is referring to a cup of coffee or a pen.

How do you know? Independent studies have found that most officer-involved shootings never even get reported to the authorities.

OK, so maybe it’s only second-degree murder, not first. If someone panics for no reason and shoots someone, they’re still responsible.

There’s a school district around here that recently had a scandal that ended with six teachers resigning in disgrace. One of them actually did something bad (though of course, not as bad as murdering a student). The other five didn’t: They just knew about the first one and didn’t say anything. Those six were all bad teachers. Teachers manage to police ourselves. The police themselves… don’t.

In that situation it’s unlikely your boss is stealing as well. It’s also unlikely your boss and coworkers use anabolic steroids, carry guns, and associate with criminals. Being a cop is more akin to working for organized crime.

What authorities? Of course the shooting is reported to their own department, and the coroner has to hold an inquest. Do you somehow thing the police just buries the bodies in the woods or something?
Measure_for_Measure provided a cite over in the “Police and their weapons” thread-

Even in New York City, most cops retire without firing their weapon on the job. From the 2008 Rand Corporation report, Evaluation of the New York City Police Department Firearm Training and Firearm-Discharge Review Process. Emphasis added:

> Table 2.3 shows the number and type of firearm discharges between 1999 and 2006. With a uniformed force of approximately 37,000 officers, statistically, it is unlikely that an officer will ever discharge his or her weapon during his or her entire career on the police force. During 2006, 156 officers were involved in a firearm-discharge incident. Moreover, fewer than half of these incidents involved an officer shooting at a human being. After eliminating two-sided gunfights, there were 47 incidents in which officers discharged their weapons without being fired on.

Of course. Likely manslaughter.

There is a piece of trivia regarding the great tv show, The Wire, related to this. The show was based on the real world experiences of the writer. As crazy as the show was, no police officer during the entire span of the show ever fired their gun, except Prez, who did it twice (and both times accidentally).

Of course shootings usually get reported. What is at question is what exactly is reported by the police directly involved, and what police peripherally involved report that usually backs up what the officer directly involved reported even when evidence gathered later directly contradicts that original report. If you go through both “Controversial encounters between law-enforcement and civilians” threads you will find many examples where fellow officers closed ranks to the detriment of truth and/or justice, and precious few examples of fellow officers voluntarily coming forth to set records straight.

Yep. And in 170 episodes of Barney Miller, considered by many to be the most realistic cop TV show, there were like 2? episodes off screen where guns were fired by the officers.

  1. I dont do the Pit. If the issue is worth serious discussion, then it shouldnt be in the Pit.

  2. there are 3700 posts there.

  3. Those are just anecdotes. But again, there are over 700000 police officers, maybe more. So, finding a handful of Controversial encounters is not meaningful, nor are First amendment audit videos on YT.

You’d need to show a peer reviewed study showing the extreme claims you make. "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” and neither of those are extraordinary , not even close.

My claims are not extreme. Once again, do you put the cops that do not report honestly and timely as to the actions of their fellow officers “good cops” or “bad cops”?

You still have no cites, other than anecdotes.

Now there is an extremely unusual claim- That the threads you refuse to view are just a collection of anecdotes and not cites leading to reports of actual events.

Then he needs to decide whether to leave the force or continue to be a bad cop. Right now he’s part of the problem.

That is the definition of an anecdote.

Each one- It happened (assuming unbiased reporting which is a BIG assumption) once. Even several of these- just more anecdotes.

Find a study.

But you can’t.

Just read the many hundreds of links.
But you won’t.

They prove nothing but it happened a few hundred times over three years, and even that is doubtful, since of course many are biased reporting.