# Police force teenager to have an erection so they can photograph it.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 9, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720 "2014-07-09T17:41:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/141 "2014-07-11T13:51:41Z")

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“OK then, we can do this the difficult way or we can do it the hard way.”

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/142 "2014-07-11T14:15:27Z")

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> [@Skara\_Brae](#):
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> The article says that they had already obtained a warrant for the photos. Some som judge in VA actually approved of this plan?

I believe [this](http://i.imgur.com/k9cSaY9.jpg) is a photo of him.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/143 "2014-07-11T14:24:39Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I wouldn’t be surprised. I’ve read articles in the past about incidents where to police produced child porn so they could use it in “sting” operations. Rather similar in nature to how they’ll sell teens drugs, get them addicted, and use the addiction, threat of prosecution for drug use or both to get the teen to cooperate in potentially fatal undercover work.
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> As a rule, cops are scum. Just a better organized gang with a nicer uniform and more resources.

> [@Frank](#):
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> _sigh_
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> Cites?

> [@Bricker](#):
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> When you read about these incidents, were you reading something you wrote?
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> Or did you read about them in anything written by someone else?

> [@Shodan](#):
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> You may not lie, but you do hallucinate.

Not to defend Der Thris, but I seem to[recall this](http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/atf-uses-rogue-tactics-in-storefront-stings-across-the-nation-b99146765z1-234916641.html):

> [@](#):
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> Earlier this year when the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel exposed a botched ATF sting in Milwaukee — that included agents hiring a brain-damaged man to promote an undercover storefront and then arresting him forhis work — ATF officials told Congress the failed Milwaukee operation was an isolated case of inadequate supervision.
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> It wasn’t.
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> …
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> Agents in several cities opened undercover gun- and drug-buying operations in safe zones near churches and schools, allowed juveniles to come in and play video games and teens to smoke marijuana, and provided alcohol to underage youths. In Portland, attorneys for three teens who were charged said a female agent dressed provocatively, flirted with the boys and encouraged them to bring drugs and weapons to the store to sell.

Granted this isn’t perfectly apropos since it’s guns and drugs, not child porn. Not quite sure I want to search for that.

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/144 "2014-07-11T14:40:43Z")

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Yeah, penis jokes work better, and there are some amusing ones here. But I strongly suspect that people don’t follow an “if no\_joke\_available then goto outrage” philosophy.

> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> You do realise that that’s actually a standard part of a rape exam, regardless of the victim’s age. So is taking photo’s of the suspect’s genitalia. What’s unheard of is forcing the suspect/victim into a state of sexual arousal prior to taking those pictures. There’s no rational reason do that (unless trying to coerce the suspect into pleading guilty counts). :dubious: That would be like requiring men suspected of sex crimes to provide semen samples instead of blood samples.

You’re right that I hadn’t actually considered that. But, presumably, those photos are at least taken with the victim’s permission. This plan sounded a lot more like court-ordered sexual assault.

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**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/145 "2014-07-11T16:46:20Z")

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This threat on another forum, about the same subject: [Manassas City police are REALLY eager to see boy's penis | SpaceBattles](http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/manassas-city-police-are-really-eager-to-see-boys-penis.304888/)

An article is posted on there about the local police in this “Manassas” place, apparently they are extremely corrupt and have a history of framing people for serious crimes.

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**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/146 "2014-07-11T17:29:18Z")

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> [@Bozuit](#):
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> Yeah, penis jokes work better, and there are some amusing ones here. But I strongly suspect that people don’t follow an “if no\_joke\_available then goto outrage” philosophy.
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> You’re right that I hadn’t actually considered that. But, presumably, those photos are at least taken with the victim’s permission. This plan sounded a lot more like court-ordered sexual assault.

Additionally, if I (a man) was raped, and in the course of the rape, my junk got beaten up, I would have no problems with officers taking pictures. Though I think I’d still have an issue if they needed _aroused_ pictures.

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/147 "2014-07-11T19:00:03Z")

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> [@Sinaptics](#):
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> Additionally, if I (a man) was raped, and in the course of the rape, my junk got beaten up, I would have no problems with officers taking pictures. Though I think I’d still have an issue if they needed _aroused_ pictures.

And if I were burgled I’d have no problem with officers looking around my house. If I were being investigated for creation and distribution of child pornography, I would have a problem with it.

You might as well compare Apple computers to Clockwork Oranges.

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**Author:** ![Sinaptics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Sinaptics](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaptics)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/148 "2014-07-11T19:36:13Z")

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> [@Bozuit](#):
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> And if I were burgled I’d have no problem with officers looking around my house. If I were being investigated for creation and distribution of child pornography, I would have a problem with it.
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> You might as well compare Apple computers to Clockwork Oranges.

I’m not sure what you’re point is. Are you stating that there wouldn’t be an issue if he wasn’t being investigated, but rather a victim?

I was responding to Alphaboi’s statement that this happens all the time to rape victims and there is no outrage.

My point was that if that were the case, I myself, and others most likely, wouldn’t have an issue. It’s the fact that the authorities were seeking pictures of his erect penis (compounded because he’s a minor) and that’s what’s generating the RO.

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**Author:** ![Stooge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Stooge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stooge)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/149 "2014-07-11T19:46:00Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I don’t lie. Don’t project your own flaws onto others.

So, you admit you were wrong? If you weren’t lying and aren’t able to back up your claims (hence the lack of a cite), being wrong is the only logical conclusion.

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**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/150 "2014-07-11T22:13:44Z")

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> [@Sinaptics](#):
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> I’m not sure what you’re point is. Are you stating that there wouldn’t be an issue if he wasn’t being investigated, but rather a victim?
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> I was responding to Alphaboi’s statement that this happens all the time to rape victims and there is no outrage.
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> My point was that if that were the case, I myself, and others most likely, wouldn’t have an issue. It’s the fact that the authorities were seeking pictures of his erect penis (compounded because he’s a minor) and that’s what’s generating the RO.

Apologies, I misunderstood your post.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2014, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/151 "2014-07-12T00:45:15Z")

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Well the latest news is that they were bragging that they were gonna get this kid hard and ready for action and in film, but when it is time to actually perform, they just lack the follow through. Talk about cock tease for justice. Every woman was waiting to see the goods on the post office wall: “Have you seen this penis? Responds to the name “Big Wally” and was last seen twittering about the internet. If you find this penis, do not approach it, as it is very excitable and could ejaculate prematurely. Do call the Manassas Police Department and tell the dispatcher where you have seen the suspected penis. It is America’s most wanted penis. And as far as the Manassas Police Department is concerned, it is the Osama bin Ladin of penises. The Manassas Police Department desperately wants this penis, and is looking for it hard.”

Gee, it’s fun to never grow older than 13.

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**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/152 "2014-07-25T19:28:08Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> He don’t have to cite nothin’, he ain’t no scientist dammit!!

Pretty good. Can you do Ed Sullivan ?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/153 "2014-07-25T19:44:12Z")

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…it took you _two weeks_ to come up with that?

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/154 "2014-07-25T21:55:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Does this remind anyone else of a certain scene from _Porky’s_?

> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Would that be the scene in the shower, which was very funny, or the subsequent scene in the principal’s office, which is officially the funniest thing ever?

Here’s that scene in the principal’s office:

[The Tallywhacker](http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81251423/)

Impressively shot in a single take.

> [@](#):
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> Balbricker: Now, Mr. Carter. I know this is completely unorthodox. But I think this is the only way to find that boy. Now that penis had a mole on it - I’d recognize that penis anywhere. In spite of the juvenile snickers of some, this is a serious matter. That seducer and despoiler must be stopped; he’s extremely dangerous. And, Mr. Carter, I’m certain that everyone in this room knows who that is. He’s a contemptible little pervert who…

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**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/155 "2014-07-29T22:16:11Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> …it took you _two weeks_ to come up with that?

I don’t share your enthusiasm for penis stories. Thought I made that clear ? BTW, why do so many gay men assume that so many straight men are “closet-bound” ? Is it just a wish, vocalized, or what ? Gay men do this quite a lot. I accept the 10%, or whatever percent it is. Why do gay men suspect the 90% of living in denial ? I don’t really care for an answer; just wanted to point-out that delusion. I’m sure you’re immune from all other delusions.

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**Author:** ![The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_great_unwashed/32/4791_2.png) [@The\_Great\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Great_Unwashed)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/156 "2014-07-29T22:55:43Z")

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I cannot satirise that. Well done, you have won the internets.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/157 "2014-07-29T23:04:50Z")

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> [@common\_good](#):
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> I don’t share your enthusiasm for penis stories. Thought I made that clear ? BTW, why do so many gay men assume that so many straight men are “closet-bound” ? Is it just a wish, vocalized, or what ? Gay men do this quite a lot. I accept the 10%, or whatever percent it is. Why do gay men suspect the 90% of living in denial ? I don’t really care for an answer; just wanted to point-out that delusion. I’m sure you’re immune from all other delusions.

[Why indeed](http://www.theonion.com/articles/why-do-all-these-homosexuals-keep-sucking-my-cock,10861/)?

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**Author:** ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/158 "2014-07-30T22:25:13Z")

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Ok, I’m wrong. I see now that all males are, in reality, gay. That I don’t recognize this in myself is due to self-delusion, the most convincing of all delusions. I can just barely tolerate women. Now I have to come to terms with the queer who lives inside me. My psyche, I mean. Geez…

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/159 "2014-07-30T22:54:42Z")

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What are you talking about???

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-force-teenager-to-have-an-erection-so-they-can-photograph-it/692720/160 "2014-07-30T23:51:52Z")

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First hit of acid had me rambling like that.

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