# Police + Invisible Son meaning of song **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 5, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-invisible-son-meaning-of-song/958981 "2022-02-05T22:53:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Imogen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@Imogen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imogen)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-invisible-son-meaning-of-song/958981/1 "2022-02-05T22:53:09Z")
The video makes it clear this is about England in the 1990 era. But I only heard the lyrics and to me this was a song about the disappeared in Argentina and in Pinochet’s Chile - “I don’t want to be an invisible son”, “a statistic in a government chart” “they would kill me for a cigarette but I don’t want to die just yet.” Music and poetry has of course a personal tag, more importantly than the literal lyrics. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-invisible-son-meaning-of-song/958981/2 "2022-02-05T23:17:37Z")
> [@Imogen](#): > > The video makes it clear this is about England in the 1990 era. First, the title and the lyrics are “Invisible _Sun_”. Second, it’s a song from 1981 so couldn’t be about the 1990s. I always heard it was about the Troubles in Northern-Ireland. Here’s the song on songfacts: > **[Invisible Sun by The Police - Songfacts](https://www.songfacts.com/facts/the-police/invisible-sun)** > > Invisible Sun by The Police song meaning, lyric interpretation, video and chart position ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-invisible-son-meaning-of-song/958981/3 "2022-02-05T23:29:41Z")
As noted on Wikipedia, Sting says that he was inspired by the Troubles when he wrote the song. Drummer Stuart Copeland has indicated that it has a somewhat broader meaning to him: > [@](#): > > Sting said of writing “Invisible Sun”: > > > “I actually wrote the song in Ireland, where I was living at the time. It was during [the hunger strikes in Belfast](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Irish_hunger_strike). I wanted to write about that but I wanted to show some light at the end of the tunnel. I do think there has to be an ‘invisible sun’. You can’t always see it, but there has to be something radiating light into our lives.”[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Sun#cite_note-Revolver-2) > > > > — Sting, Revolver, 2000 > > The song’s lyrics stem from songwriter Sting’s pondering how people living in war-torn and/or impoverished countries find the will to go on living, and despite the dark music and often morbid lyrical statements, the song carries an intensely uplifting and optimistic message. The song was deeply personal for drummer [Stewart Copeland](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Copeland), whose hometown of [Beirut](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beirut) was being heavily bombed at the time of the song’s recording:[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Sun#cite_note-Revolver-2) > > > “For me, the song was about Beirut, where I’d grown up, which at that point was going up in flames. My hometown was being vilified by the media as a terrorist stronghold, and [it was being blasted by bombs and napalm. Twenty thousand Lebanese were killed that year.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War#Second_phase_1977%E2%80%9382) And the Lebanese must have been feeling some heat from the invisible sun, because they were keeping their peckers up.” > > > > — Stewart Copeland, Revolver, 2000 > **[Invisible Sun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Sun)** > > "Invisible Sun" is a song by British rock band the Police, released as a single in Europe in September 1981. It was the first single to be released in the United Kingdom from the album Ghost in the Machine and it reached No. 2 on the official chart. The song also reached No. 5 in Ireland and No. 27 in the Netherlands. It was not released as a single in the United States. In most other territories, "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" was chosen as the lead single from the album. > Sting said ... ---
**Author:** ![hibernicus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hibernicus/32/2802_2.png) [@hibernicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hibernicus)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-invisible-son-meaning-of-song/958981/4 "2022-02-05T23:36:41Z")
> [@Imogen](#): > > But I only heard the lyrics and to me this was a song about the disappeared in Argentina and in Pinochet’s Chile Interestingly, in 1987 Sting wrote “They Dance Alone” which is about Pinochet’s Chile and does include the words “Invisible Sons”. The video for “Invisible Sun” shows imagery from Belfast, not England. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-invisible-son-meaning-of-song/958981/5 "2022-02-05T23:43:27Z")
> [@hibernicus](#): > > Interestingly, in 1987 Sting wrote “They Dance Alone” which is about Pinochet’s Chile and does include the words “Invisible Sons”. Ah, that could explain the confusion in the OP. I know “They Dance Alone” but didn’t remember that it contains the lyric “Invisible Sons”. @Imogen , did you maybe conflate the two songs? “They Dance Alone” definitely is about the mothers of “lost” people dancing in protest against the Pinochet regime. I’m not a big fan of Sting’s solo work (my favorite album still is his second solo, the live “Bring On The Night”), but this is a very moving song. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2022, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-invisible-son-meaning-of-song/958981/6 "2022-02-06T06:42:32Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Here’s the song on songfacts: > - To boost their credibility with the punk audience, The Police claimed that _Roxanne_ and _Can’t Stand Losing You_ were banned by the BBC. They weren’t, but _Invisible Sun_ was; songs about prostitutes and suicide didn’t rankle the network, but those about “The Troubles” in Northern Ireland did. Paul McCartney’s _Give Ireland Back To The Irish_ met the same fate. Interesting about the banning, I didn’t know about that. I think we mostly try to ban books over here. I’m also surprised that _Invisible Sun_ wasn’t released as a single in the US. I seem to remember hearing it a lot, but maybe it was just because of MTV. I don’t know if anyone’s done it yet so I’m going to flag for a move to Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2022, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-invisible-son-meaning-of-song/958981/7 "2022-02-06T06:54:20Z")
Welcome to the Straight Dope message boards, @Imogen. Please note that the boards are divided into forums / categories. You posted this in the About This Message Board category, which is for questions about the board itself (rules, procedures, problems, etc). Your post belongs in our Cafe Society forum, which is for questions about anything artistic, like music, literature, or cooking. It’s no biggie. I have moved the thread to Cafe Society for you. For future posts, please take the time to read the category descriptions before posting. Again, welcome, and we hope that you enjoy your stay here with us! ---
**Author:** ![Imogen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@Imogen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imogen)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2022, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-invisible-son-meaning-of-song/958981/8 "2022-02-06T11:04:07Z")
Interesting, no, I don’t think I did conflate the two songs but only part-heard the words of Invisible Son. There was another song about South America only once heard “The Electrician”. Very moving however you interpret the lyrics. Imogen ---
**Author:** ![Imogen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@Imogen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imogen)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-invisible-son-meaning-of-song/958981/9 "2022-02-06T11:06:04Z")
Thanks for replying, yes the video does as I discovered when I saw it, but there is a broader meaning in interpreting songs which may be very personal and cannot be discounted because that is why music touches us. Imogen