# Police killing protesters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-killing-protesters/853849>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 15, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-killing-protesters/853849 "2020-05-15T13:02:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-killing-protesters/853849/21 "2020-05-21T05:37:35Z")

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> [@md2000](#):
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> Interesting - the other two I had not heard of before. Thanks.
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> but if memory serves me, the first movie (or rather, previous movie) ended with a fairly extensive list of such incidents.

I’m pretty sure you are confusing the two. Bill Jack ends with him being driven away in a police car with the students standing on either side of the road while One Tin Soldier plays. No list. The horrible sequel lists what I mentioned above but in the beginning. You can easily find the full movies of both online but I won’t link them here because I don’t know if it’s a copyright violation.

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**Author:** ![fedman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/278dde/32.png) [@fedman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fedman)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-killing-protesters/853849/22 "2020-05-22T04:44:25Z")

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> [@road\_lobo](#):
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> \*commemorated

correct, my bad wrote too fast without thinking

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-killing-protesters/853849/23 "2020-05-22T08:36:01Z")

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Does the [MOVE bombing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE#1985_bombing) count? The police fired ten thousand rounds, then bombed the building the MOVE people were in setting it on fire, and there are claims that the police shot at them as they tried to escape; others just burned. Also 65 other houses burned while the police held off firefighters.

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**Author:** ![md2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/73ab20/32.png) [@md2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md2000)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-killing-protesters/853849/24 "2020-05-22T13:47:34Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> I’m pretty sure you are confusing the two. Bill Jack ends with him being driven away in a police car with the students standing on either side of the road while One Tin Soldier plays. No list. The horrible sequel lists what I mentioned above but in the beginning. You can easily find the full movies of both online but I won’t link them here because I don’t know if it’s a copyright violation.

OK, it’s been 30 or 40 years I think. I just remember a scrolling list with increasing body counts. Thanks for the update.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-killing-protesters/853849/25 "2020-05-22T16:48:52Z")

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When you shoot someone protesting…it becomes ‘a riot’.

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**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-killing-protesters/853849/26 "2020-05-23T14:35:44Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> When you shoot someone protesting…it becomes ‘a riot’.

I don’t think that happened in the Kent State case.

What are some examples?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-killing-protesters/853849/27 "2020-05-23T14:49:27Z")

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> [@Dale\_Sams](#):
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> When you shoot someone protesting…it becomes ‘a riot’.

> [@Xema](#):
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> I don’t think that happened in the Kent State case.
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> What are some examples?

**Moderating**

I think he is saying that if the police shoot someone during a protest, the protest then gets called a riot in order to justify the shooting. Since this is a political jab, let’s drop this tangent.

If **Dale Sams** meant something else, then he can clarify.

Colibri  
General Questions Moderator

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