# Police news: operator of the "CleanFlix" service is a kiddly diddler and porn addict
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [January 31, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747 "2008-01-31T19:15:09Z")
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/1 "2008-01-31T19:15:09Z")
Offered without comment. Well, not much. The news pretty much speaks for itself.
> **[The Salt Lake Tribune - Utah News, Sports, Religion & Entertainment](https://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_8083729/)**
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> Utah’s independent news source since 1871, The Salt Lake Tribune covers news, entertainment, sports and faith for Salt Lake City and the state of Utah.
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> Daniel D. Thompson’s business catered to Utah residents offended by something as racy as a PG-13 movie. Now the former film sanitizer is accused of a crime by Orem police that is far more salacious than any date movie.
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> Thompson, 31, and Isaac R. Lifferth, 24, were arrested in Orem this week on suspicion of having sex with two 14-year-old girls. Orem police say the teenagers wanted to earn money to move out of their homes and offered sexual favors to men.
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> The booking documents state Thompson told the 14-year-olds that his film sanitizing business was a cover for a pornography studio. He asked the girls if they would participate in making a porn movie, but they refused, the documents state.
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> Police found a “large quantity” of pornographic movies inside the business, along with a keg of beer, painkillers and two cameras hooked up to a television. Thompson told police he didn’t know the teenagers were under 18 or that they were paid for sex. He said pornography found at the business was for “personal use,” according to the documents.
[Relevant commentary](http://www.youaredumb.net/archive/2008/1/29):
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> At this point, it’s moved beyond comedy correlation. It’s moved beyond comedy rule. If you are promoting what is traditionally referred to as “family values”, you are doing something in secret that you don’t want us to know about. Something filthy and dirty and odds are, illegal. Period.
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> So champion one married man and one married woman, neither of whom had ever seen another person’s genitals until their wedding night, who then proceed to make babies with an absolute minimum of pleasure for the rest of their intimate lives. Go nuts. Hold rallies. Make signs. Picket porn shops and gay weddings. To your heart’s content. But don’t get upset when we assume you’ve got a dungeon in your basement full of sex toys, underage prostitutes, and farm animals. Because you do, and we both fucking know it, don’t we?
Can we make this an official rule now? “Family values agitator” = “closet freak”?
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### Author:  [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/2 "2008-01-31T19:39:43Z")
[QUOTE=Cervaise]
Can we make this an official rule now? “Family values agitator” = “closet freak”?
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Sure. After all, nothing could be stronger proof of 100% accuracy of the claim than what has been presented here.
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### Author:  [@Santo\_Rugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santo_Rugger)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/3 "2008-01-31T19:48:07Z")
[QUOTE=Bricker]
Sure. After all, nothing could be stronger proof of 100% accuracy of the claim than what has been presented here.
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Especially when the originating cite is [www.youaredumb.net](http://www.youaredumb.net)
From the quoted article:
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> But it’s just as likely that every single one of his customers, coming in to get tittie-free copies of Titanic, or cleaned-up copies of Pirates 3, went home, plopped their spawn in front of the DVD player, then snuck downstairs to get their freak on with goats and latex. All a carefully orchestrated surface veneer of holier-than-thou, concealing all the things the family values crowd wants to stop us from seeing and doing, plus much, much worse.
:rolleyes:
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### Author:  [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/4 "2008-01-31T20:55:31Z")
[QUOTE=Bricker]
Sure.
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Great! I’ll have it entered in the book.
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### Author:  [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/5 "2008-01-31T20:57:49Z")
CBS is reporting this story: [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/25/national/main3753682.shtml](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/25/national/main3753682.shtml)
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### Author:  [@Miss\_Woodhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Woodhouse)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/6 "2008-01-31T21:03:47Z")
lovely. So because one man who supposedly supported family values was a freak, that means everyone with that viewpoint also is a freak?
I hope your arm is strong enough to hold that broad brush you’re waving around.
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### Author:  [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/7 "2008-01-31T21:07:54Z")
No, the point is that a shit-ton of people who advocate “family values” as an excuse for hatred turn out to privately practice exactly what they rail against; people who believe in what the previous group was preaching but don’t get in other people’s faces about it are exempt from this new rule **Cervaise** has distilled from the many data points we’ve seen over the past few years and months.
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### Author:  [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/8 "2008-01-31T21:08:55Z")
[QUOTE=Miss Woodhouse]
lovely. So because one man who supposedly supported family values was a freak, that means everyone with that viewpoint also is a freak?
I hope your arm is strong enough to hold that broad brush you’re waving around.
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Not just one. This is merely the latest in a long string of supporters of ‘family values’ personal lives strongly conflicting with the supposed values they publicly espouse and advocate.
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### Author:  [@Miss\_Woodhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miss_Woodhouse)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/9 "2008-01-31T21:54:02Z")
Still, it’s a very broad brush. I know that the “family values” contingent is very much hated on this board, but you’re still grasping at straws. It’s like saying the more homophobic someone is, the more likely they are to be homosexual. I understand how someone might like the arguement, but I still don’t buy it. Yeah, there are freaks out there and people who want to be associated with groups who’s lifestyles they don’t actually live, however, they are still so much the minority that when one is found it makes national news.
Call that man a hypocrite and a pervert all you like. I’ll stand by you on that. Please do not start calling everyone who wanted to use his Clean Flicks service the same kind of sex pervert. (Which was very much implied by the article quoted in the OP.)
FWIW: I was never a clean flicks customer.
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### Author:  [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/10 "2008-01-31T21:58:50Z")
Well, here’s hoping this revelation drives a stake through the miserable abortion of a business he was running.
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### Author:  [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/11 "2008-01-31T22:04:19Z")
Whenever I see that word, I see it capitalized: CLEAN FLICKS.
Then I laugh.
And oh yeah, this is becoming scarily less like a joke and more like a prime indicator. Policemen, take note.
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### Author:  [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/12 "2008-01-31T22:18:28Z")
[QUOTE=Miss Woodhouse]
lovely. So because one man who supposedly supported family values was a freak, that means everyone with that viewpoint also is a freak?
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Works for me.
Now, granted, I am not very familiar with **Cervaise** ’s viewpoints, but I’m pretty sure (\>99%) the last line of the OP was sarcasm. I could be wrong…oh, hell, no I couldn’t be. I already made my mistake for January. C’mon people, blatant sarcasm is not that hard to spot.
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### Author:  [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/13 "2008-01-31T22:22:05Z")
[QUOTE=Ludovic]
And oh yeah, this is becoming scarily less like a joke and more like a prime indicator. Policemen, take note.
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In a weird sort of way, it makes sense. I mean, I see people freaking the fuck out about a nipple on television, and I don’t get it. I see a nipple. I see a baby food delivery device, a foreplay tool and a t-shirt menace. I guess some people see nipple clamps and electrodes and peanut butter and goats. And y’know, if that’s what I associated nipples with, I might want to shield my kids from them, too.
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### Author:  [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/14 "2008-01-31T22:28:32Z")
[QUOTE=Miss Woodhouse]
It’s like saying the more homophobic someone is, the more likely they are to be homosexual.
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Well… I have observed this, both in person and in public figures. While I think the OP’s cite is at least partly facetious, there is something to be said for people who go to one extreme to cover up another.
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### Author:  [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/15 "2008-01-31T22:29:13Z")
[QUOTE=Miss Woodhouse]
Still, it’s a very broad brush. I know that the “family values” contingent is very much hated on this board, but you’re still grasping at straws. It’s like saying the more homophobic someone is, the more likely they are to be homosexual. I understand how someone might like the arguement, but I still don’t buy it. Yeah, there are freaks out there and people who want to be associated with groups who’s lifestyles they don’t actually live, however, they are still so much the minority that when one is found it makes national news.
Call that man a hypocrite and a pervert all you like. I’ll stand by you on that. Please do not start calling everyone who wanted to use his Clean Flicks service the same kind of sex pervert. (Which was very much implied by the article quoted in the OP.)
FWIW: I was never a clean flicks customer.
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I doubt that anyone hates those who appreciate family values; it’s those who can’t STFU about it that we all hate. We also hate PETA members. It’s the self-appointed saviors of us all who create such feelings of animosity, and when they do turn out to be pervs, there’s a certain amount of schadenfreude involved.
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### Author:  [@E.Thorp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E.Thorp)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/16 "2008-01-31T22:45:20Z")
[QUOTE=Miss Woodhouse]
Please do not start calling everyone who wanted to use his Clean Flicks service the same kind of sex pervert. (Which was very much implied by the article quoted in the OP.)
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Which part of the article implied this? The article is about the proprietor, not the customers.
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### Author:  [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/17 "2008-01-31T23:04:04Z")
Well, my mama used to say that any time you point a finger, three more point right back at yourself. I definitely notice a correlation between people who really frantically flip out over stuff “they” are doing getting busted for doing that exact thing. It’s no mystery–we all judge others against ourselves and as long as we’re cool with ourselves we’re cool with others being that way. If, on the other hand, we find ourselves, against our consciences, wanting desperately to have sex with fourteen year olds, we’re likely to assume that EVERYBODY wants to have sex with fourteen year olds and some of us are likely to go on a crusade against having sex with fourteen year olds as A) a method of stopping ourselves from wanting to or doing it and B) as preemptive expiation for the inevitable day when we finally do break down and have sex with a fourteen year old. This isn’t exactly the psychological equivalent of rocket science here…
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### Author:  [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/18 "2008-01-31T23:25:38Z")
What’s the big deal, he lives in Utah- isn’t their state motto “old enough to read, old enough to breed”? 🙂
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### Author:  [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2008, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/19 "2008-01-31T23:33:25Z")
[QUOTE=Bricker]
Sure. After all, nothing could be stronger proof of 100% accuracy of the claim than what has been presented here.
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Well, [Steve Huff wrote about this](http://www.truecrimeweblog.com/2008/01/dirty-things-afoot-at-cleanflicks-fall.html) on the 25th, and he researches diligently. Does that lend more credibility? It isn’t until the 29th that he put up another [news article](http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/252924/17/) giving the same info he had reported, [this](http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2548266) being the first article he linked to. He would have sources though, being a reporter, and occaisonal guest at CourtTV.
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### Author:  [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)
#### Post date: [February 1, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-news-operator-of-the-cleanflix-service-is-a-kiddly-diddler-and-porn-addict/435747/20 "2008-02-01T00:05:33Z")
[QUOTE=Miss Woodhouse]
It’s like saying the more homophobic someone is, the more likely they are to be homosexual.
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For starters, ever heard of Ted Haggard or Larry Craig?
(Personally, I’m waiting for ol’ Fred Phelps to come out of the closet.)
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