# Police officer applications will decline for a long time.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 30, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716 "2020-05-30T04:26:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/1 "2020-05-30T04:26:25Z")

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Who is going to want to be a police officer?

These are their tasks:

> **[33-3051.00 - Police and Sheriff's Patrol Officers](https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/33-3051.00?redir=33-3051.01)**
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There is a American policing problem. The question is how does it get solved?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/2 "2020-05-30T05:32:16Z")

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Your proposition is hilarious. Are you going to be here all week?

Wait, you’re serious? There’s no way an iron ricebowl will see a decline in applications, especially if the economy is tanking.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/3 "2020-05-30T05:32:55Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> Who is going to want to be a police officer?
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> These are their tasks:
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> [33-3051.00 - Police and Sheriff's Patrol Officers](https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/33-3051.01#ToolsUsed)
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> There is a American policing problem. The question is how does it get solved?

First by hiring officers that can perform those tasks.

I have no problem paying them more, even a whole lot more, if it means that we get higher quality applicants.

I don’t want cops who want to make a difference, those are the ones who have their own idea of what that difference should be. And I certainly don’t want cops who want the authority that comes with a badge to bolster their desire to assert their dominance.

I want cops who want to get a great paycheck and live a good life. I want them to value their jobs and not fuck up. I want them to take their jobs seriously, and report those who do not.

And we do not hire those who have their own sense of justice, whatever that means. We take citizen complaints seriously, and demote or fire anyone who abuses their power.

We have too many cops anyway. End the drug war, and suddenly, half of them are superfluous.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/4 "2020-05-30T05:43:49Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> Who is going to want to be a police officer?
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> These are their tasks:
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> [33-3051.00 - Police and Sheriff's Patrol Officers](https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/33-3051.01#ToolsUsed)
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> There is a American policing problem. The question is how does it get solved?

There isn’t enough of an OP here to bother to reply to.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/5 "2020-05-30T06:49:48Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> The question is how does it get solved?

Ask everybody to stop doing crime. Just Say No!

Solved!

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/6 "2020-05-30T07:10:01Z")

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Police officers don’t get paid very much. That’s reason enough to keep a bunch of good people from applying.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/7 "2020-05-30T07:25:13Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> Who is going to want to be a police officer?
> 
> These are their tasks:
> 
> [33-3051.00 - Police and Sheriff's Patrol Officers](https://www.onetonline.org/link/summary/33-3051.01#ToolsUsed)
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> There is a American policing problem. **The question is how does it get solved?**

[Bolding mine]

Well, you can apply online, though I wouldn’t suggest training anywhere east of Pittsburgh…  
[COLOR=“Red”](go, SOX!)[/COLOR]

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/8 "2020-05-30T10:42:22Z")

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So, you think it’s a problem that police are expected to be adequately trained and perform their job responsibly? 😕

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/9 "2020-05-30T12:20:32Z")

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Will you go away, you trolling piece of shit?

You tried starting two Great Debates threads in the last couple of days, but they were too fucking stupid and got closed. At least you’re now starting them in the Pit, where your trolling idiocy can be openly identified.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/10 "2020-05-30T12:40:04Z")

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I tend to agree— this has been the most boring and repetitive of all the OP’s sock accounts.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/11 "2020-05-30T12:46:42Z")

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While I generally agree about the OP, I thought the one about people wanting to be cops actually had some good discussion despite the OP and that it didn’t deserve to be locked.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/12 "2020-05-30T13:46:02Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> There isn’t enough of an OP here to bother to reply to.

My thoughts as well.

OP, if you’re bored, play video games or take a walk in a local park.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/13 "2020-05-30T14:01:13Z")

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OP, you are a fucking idiot. You are one of a few posters here that I try not to respond to. As you can see, I don’t always succeed. So while I’m responding, I will call you an asshole who never posts anything genuine; you are a pretender, and you probably smell funny, too.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/14 "2020-05-30T14:18:13Z")

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Hey OP… you can start by not hiring Dicks like This Guy:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/qv-O4rnUToU/maxresdefault.jpg "Suspicious Man Breaks Window & Starts Minneapolis Riots") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-O4rnUToU)

> **[Imgflip](https://imgflip.com/i/43dlns)**

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/15 "2020-05-30T15:11:56Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> Hey OP… you can start by not hiring Dicks like This Guy:
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> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-O4rnUToU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv-O4rnUToU)
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> [Imgflip](https://imgflip.com/i/43dlns)

:Ahem: I know you are on the good side, but we really need to check things before reporting unproven things.

> **[Does Video Show Police Officer Smashing Windows During Minn. Protests?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/officer-jacob-pederson-protests/)**
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> St. Paul Police Department issued a statement about the man depicted in the controversial video.

As noted elsewhere, the ones working to discredit protesters are usually mercenaries for the powerful that want to keep injustice going. No need to use the police for that dirty job.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/16 "2020-05-30T15:27:02Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Police officers don’t get paid very much. That’s reason enough to keep a bunch of good people from applying.

In my area:

Probationary Cst. (1st year) $70,158   
4th Class Cst. (2nd year) $75,169   
3rd Class Cst. (3rd year) $80,180   
2nd Class Cst. (4th year) $90,203   
1st Class Cst. (5th year) $100,226

Qualifications are high school graduate and valid driver’s license. You don’t even need a clean driving record.

Not bad at all.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/17 "2020-05-30T15:52:50Z")

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Cops in my neck of the woods get paid pretty well, and have really good retirement plans.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/18 "2020-05-30T16:00:39Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Cops in my neck of the woods get paid pretty well, and have really good retirement plans.

And they can retire at a relatively young age with full benefits, and then they can double dip.

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**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/19 "2020-05-30T19:14:10Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> OP, you are a fucking idiot. You are one of a few posters here that I try not to respond to. As you can see, I don’t always succeed. So while I’m responding, I will call you an asshole who never posts anything genuine; you are a pretender, and you probably smell funny, too.

How the hell am I an idiot for bringing up important discussions? What the hell is wrong with you?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-officer-applications-will-decline-for-a-long-time/854716/20 "2020-05-30T19:20:56Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> How the hell am I an idiot for bringing up important discussions? What the hell is wrong with you?

How the hell is this an important discussion? Have you noticed a decline in applications for police officer positions? Or are you just making shit up because some cops are in hot water right now? Do you perceive police officers are being unfairly maligned?  
Do you think this will discourage others from joining the profession?

You said “there is an American policing problem.” Before we can offer a solution, we need to know what you see as the problem? Too many black men being murdered or people being mean to cops?

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