# Police shoot and kill armed man at Texas summer camp (Breaking news, 2022-06-12)

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**Created:** [June 13, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112 "2022-06-13T17:47:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/1 "2022-06-13T17:47:41Z")

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Police responded to a 9-1-1 call from a summer camp just outside Dallas, Texas, and reports of a man armed with a gun inside the Duncansville Fieldhouse, where 150 children were gathered for summer camp.

They arrived within two minutes of the call, engaged the suspect, and killed him.

> **[Gunman killed by police at Texas summer camp had opened fire near classroom...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/armed-person-at-texas-summer-camp-killed-by-police-officials-say/ar-AAYprkI?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=9a2e06fc775546a79d6b377157d4559c)**
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> No children, staff members or police were harmed as the deadly confrontation unfolded at the Duncanville Fieldhouse just outside Dallas.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/2 "2022-06-13T17:53:22Z")

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Sounds like good news and a job done right by the police.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/3 "2022-06-13T17:58:25Z")

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Yes. Although, considering it’s Texas, I’m wondering what law he broke prior to being killed. It’s probably legal to carry a gun everywhere in the state. (I know. Devil’s Advocate.)

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/4 "2022-06-13T17:59:00Z")

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Good cops, give donuts.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/5 "2022-06-13T18:03:17Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Sounds like good news and a job done right by the police.

Yes, but it’s sad that nowadays our first reaction to a story like this is what you said, rather than “Holy shit! There was a gunman at a summer camp with 150 children!”

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/6 "2022-06-13T18:07:57Z")

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Actually my first thought was to be happy none of the kids were killed or injured. But otherwise true, sadly true.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/7 "2022-06-13T18:08:00Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Although, considering it’s Texas, I’m wondering what law he broke prior to being killed. It’s probably legal to carry a gun everywhere in the state

Probably failure to comply with the cops’ order to drop the gun, putting them in fear of their safety.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/8 "2022-06-13T18:21:34Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> I’m wondering what law he broke prior to being killed.

Maybe _he_ heard there was a man armed with a gun in there, and went in to engage him.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/9 "2022-06-13T18:30:54Z")

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Ah, the infinite mirrors theory.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/10 "2022-06-13T18:33:23Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> They arrived within two minutes of the call, engaged the suspect, and killed him.

Now, THAT is good police work!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/11 "2022-06-13T22:20:26Z")

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I read that as “the infinite morons theory”.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/12 "2022-06-13T22:32:25Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Sounds like good news and a job done right by the police.

You are aware that, for the rest of the “civilised” world, what constitutes a good result would have been “local law authorities approached the man, disarmed him and he is now being questioned in custody”?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/13 "2022-06-13T22:35:10Z")

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Our bar has been set pretty low, especially lately and especially in Texas.

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**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/14 "2022-06-13T22:35:41Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> Now, THAT is good police work!

…until it’s discovered that he was the riflery range counselor & was carrying ½ dozen BB guns out to setup for the day

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/15 "2022-06-13T22:40:04Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Our bar has been set pretty low, especially lately and especially in Texas.

Alas yes.  
Though not particularly lately nor just in Texas.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/16 "2022-06-14T11:42:03Z")

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> [@Spiderman](#):
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> until it’s discovered that he was the riflery range counselor & was carrying ½ dozen BB guns out to setup for the day

Cite, please.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/17 "2022-06-14T12:04:30Z")

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> You are aware that, for the rest of the “civilised” world, what constitutes a good result would have been “local law authorities approached the man, disarmed him and he is now being questioned in custody”?

Yeah, I’m very glad that none of the campers were hurt, but the ideal result would have been an arrest, not a kill. Even if you don’t value the gunman as a person, we need to be able to understand people like this, so we can better prevent these situations, and that’s a lot harder when the people like this always end up dead.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/18 "2022-06-14T12:08:13Z")

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I do not think he was being serious.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/19 "2022-06-14T12:34:38Z")

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He is clearly not stating that as having happened. Just a fearful hope it doesn’t turn out to be.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-shoot-and-kill-armed-man-at-texas-summer-camp-breaking-news-2022-06-12/966112/20 "2022-06-14T14:09:39Z")

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I don’t think that was in the cards… looks like he had his gun out and actually shot at the cops.

[From NBC 5 DFW’s story on the incident:](https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/watch-gunfire-reported-outside-duncanville-field-house-campers-moved-to-rec-center/2990942/)

> During a search of the area, police said officers found the man armed with a handgun in the gymnasium and exchanged gunfire. The man was shot by police and given medical aid before being transferred to a hospital where he later died.

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