# Police totaly out of control **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 31, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691 "2010-07-31T15:56:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/21 "2010-08-03T16:30:50Z")
Personally, I protect myself from this stuff by not watching YouTube. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/22 "2010-08-03T17:03:10Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > As they say in the intelligence community, there’s only one way to deal with a mole: blow it’s bloody 'ead orf! > > And the same can be true of pigs, so exercise your constituntionally guaranteed right to carry weapons at all times. You may have a constitutional right to carry a weapon (though not at “all times”) — but not to kill police officers. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/23 "2010-08-03T17:49:48Z")
If you want to avoid the possibility of getting roughed up by cops your best bet is to use some common sense and remove yourself from situations where it may occur. Sure you may just be an innocent bystander when a crowd decides to get unruly and you just want to stand by and observe but a little foresight should tell you the scene is getting a bit tense and you may want to leave. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/24 "2010-08-03T18:14:34Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Most of the time that is true, but sometimes it is not. Get a pissed off cop with a hard on and you will be in trouble, no matter what you do. Perhaps, and there’s not much you can do about that. But surely we can agree that remaining calm and cooperating typically produces better results than acting like a raving douche? ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/25 "2010-08-03T18:30:41Z")
> [@Methen](#): > > Ok here is a question to think about your not suppose to lay hands on a cop for any reason but what are you suppose to do when you have a bad cop beating the crap out of you just let him do it ?! > > I ve set there and and watch people on you tube get the crap beat out of them > and not even lift a finger to defend there self and other people just stood around and did not offer to lift a finger to help! Even the nutto who wrote “The Anarchists Cookbook” back in the 70’s said to never resist police (until society falls that is then they are fair game). He wrote that what you do is fall to the ground in a fetal position, hands over your scalp/face in your knees to protect your face. If you can get your back up against hard object (that way blows can’t hit your spine). Your goal it to take the beating with as little permanent injury as possible. In addition, if the cop is videotaped, that position will never be thought of as provocative in any way. This guy was a nutto and thought police should be killed and even HE said never fight back against police. ---
**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/26 "2010-08-04T06:00:59Z")
The [mother from _the Family Circus_](http://a.imageshack.us/img819/5180/familycircus1567.jpg) has a method for dealing with the cops ---
**Author:** ![gladtobeblazed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@gladtobeblazed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gladtobeblazed)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/27 "2010-08-04T07:43:18Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > You may have a constitutional right to carry a weapon (though not at “all times”) — but not to kill police officers. I certainly have the right to self defense. Even if I can’t prove it was self defense in court, I’d rather be a hero in prison, than just let some cop possibly cripple or kill me. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/28 "2010-08-04T13:22:31Z")
[Chris Rock] You be a hero in prison. I’ll be a pussy at the mall. [/CR] ---
**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/29 "2010-08-04T13:29:06Z")
So, be meek and treat the cop like a god, get away from the area, or just take a beating? What are the odds the cop will be a decent human being and treat You with respect? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/30 "2010-08-04T13:44:13Z")
> [@Lanzy](#): > > What are the odds the cop will be a decent human being and treat You with respect? While I’ve had some interactions with rather brusque cops, I can’t say I was beaten by any of them during any of the four or five times I’ve been pulled over in my life. How many times have you interacted with police? How many of those resulted in beatings? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/31 "2010-08-04T15:23:18Z")
I had one when I was about 25 years old. I was with a friend who was driving. he made a legal U turn. The cops pulled him over. They wanted his license and registration, even though he did not do anything illegal. I was in the car minding my own business when his partner pulled the door open and ordered me to get out. He then wanted my license and registration. I asked him why ,since I was not driving. He said ,because I told you to. I told him I would not give do it. I had no legal reason, license was valid and clean. I just resented getting pushed around. He got furious and aggressive. I told him he had no cause to ask for my paperwork unless being a passenger in a car was illegal. It was escalating when his partner whispered to me you better do it, he will beat you with his flashlight . So I backed down . I felt I had a right not to be harassed by cops with no probable cause. Back 40 years ago we felt we had the right to protect ourselves from illegal police actions. There was no cause. If I am going down the street , legal and minding my own business, i expect the police to leave me alone. That is not too much to ask, is it? ---
**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/32 "2010-08-04T16:06:27Z")
> [@blindboyard](#): > > As they say in the intelligence community, there’s only one way to deal with a mole: blow it’s bloody 'ead orf! > > And the same can be true of pigs, so exercise your constituntionally guaranteed right to carry weapons at all times. Please have someone videotape when you do this, I’d LOVE to watch. ---
**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/33 "2010-08-04T16:12:39Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > I had one when I was about 25 years old. I was with a friend who was driving. he made a legal U turn. The cops pulled him over. They wanted his license and registration, even though he did not do anything illegal. I was in the car minding my own business when his partner pulled the door open and ordered me to get out. He then wanted my license and registration. I asked him why ,since I was not driving. He said ,because I told you to. I told him I would not give do it. I had no legal reason, license was valid and clean. I just resented getting pushed around. He got furious and aggressive. I told him he had no cause to ask for my paperwork unless being a passenger in a car was illegal. It was escalating when his partner whispered to me you better do it, he will beat you with his flashlight . So I backed down . I felt I had a right not to be harassed by cops with no probable cause. Back 40 years ago we felt we had the right to protect ourselves from illegal police actions. There was no cause. > If I am going down the street , legal and minding my own business, i expect the police to leave me alone. That is not too much to ask, is it? Did he want your registration for your shoes?:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/34 "2010-08-04T16:19:12Z")
Imagine you are visiting a police state. Behave accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![EmAnJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@EmAnJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmAnJ)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/35 "2010-08-04T18:02:25Z")
Where the hell do you people live? Yeah, sure, it happens once in a while, but for crying out loud, it’s not like it’s a common occurrence! I have NEVER had a bad incident with a cop and neither have any of my friends or family. But then, I don’t do stupid stuff like get mouthy, or refuse to give some form of ID to a cop when asked (he has the right to ask, you know, you legally have to give up your name). I kind of think it’s the people who do stupid illegal stuff that have all these issues with the cops. Stop being a dumb ass and it’ll stop happening. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/36 "2010-08-04T18:11:44Z")
> [@Todderbob](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > I had one when I was about 25 years old. I was with a friend who was driving. he made a legal U turn. The cops pulled him over. They wanted his license and registration, even though he did not do anything illegal. I was in the car minding my own business when his partner pulled the door open and ordered me to get out. He then wanted my license and registration. I asked him why ,since I was not driving. He said ,because I told you to. I told him I would not give do it. I had no legal reason, license was valid and clean. I just resented getting pushed around. He got furious and aggressive. I told him he had no cause to ask for my paperwork unless being a passenger in a car was illegal. It was escalating when his partner whispered to me you better do it, he will beat you with his flashlight . So I backed down . I felt I had a right not to be harassed by cops with no probable cause. Back 40 years ago we felt we had the right to protect ourselves from illegal police actions. There was no cause. > > If I am going down the street , legal and minding my own business, i expect the police to leave me alone. That is not too much to ask, is it? > > Did he want your registration for your shoes?:rolleyes: That’s part of what annoyed me. I asked him why he wanted it, We was was not in my car. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/37 "2010-08-04T18:26:21Z")
We WERE not in my car, Sorry [http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2008566,00.html?xid=huffpo-direct](http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2008566,00.html?xid=huffpo-direct) The cops keep pushing us back. ---
**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/38 "2010-08-04T18:32:53Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > > [@Todderbob](#): > > > > Did he want your registration for your shoes?:rolleyes: > > That’s part of what annoyed me. I asked him why he wanted it, We was was not in my car. I suspect, We was not happening at all. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/39 "2010-08-09T02:19:23Z")
> [@Methen](#): > > I ve been watching this stuff on you tube below is just one example > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fizo-sOSE6o&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fizo-sOSE6o&feature=related) > > under police brutality on you tube > > My question is what can we do to protect our selfs from this type of stuff happening? Simple - don’t fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691/40 "2010-08-09T02:39:43Z")
I am a swarthy and sketchy looking son of a bitch. Yet, somehow I rarely attract police attention, and when I do, it always ends with, “have a nice day!” Guess I’m just fortunate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-totaly-out-of-control/548691.md?page=3)