# Politely disagree with a modding...

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**Created:** [January 23, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147 "2013-01-23T20:37:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/1 "2013-01-23T20:37:45Z")

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I don’t know how to link to a specific post in another thread… In the thread about evidence for God (ha! as if there were only one!) **Marley23** modded **raindog** for having “junior modded” **Critical1** , for having told him that spelling and punctuation and grammar are important and that others would take him more seriously if he used these properly.

In my humble opinion, telling others, “Your spelling is rotten, your formatting is hard to read, your grammar is awful, and people aren’t going to take you seriously unless you get better” is not “junior modding” but legitimate criticism.

So… Um… Meh. My opinion. I also like white chocolate.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/2 "2013-01-23T20:40:04Z")

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I was with you up until that last line. You heathen you.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/3 "2013-01-23T20:41:10Z")

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To link to a specific post click on the underlined number to the left of the little red triangle that you use to report posts. A window pops up with just that specific post and then copy and paste the URL.

To link to your OP I clicked on the number 1 and here it is.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15929989&postcount=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15929989&postcount=1)

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/4 "2013-01-23T20:45:59Z")

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**Trinopus** : People will take you more seriously if you at least link to the thread.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/5 "2013-01-23T20:54:27Z")

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The actual post was more obnoxious than **Trinopus** ’s description. [Link here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15923599#post15923599)

> [@evidence for god? some one said so.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/evidence-for-god-some-one-said-so/647896/62):
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> **Critical1** has been told once before [that punctuation and formatting kinda matter.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15914590&postcount=36)
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> **Critical1** , there are posters who are less likely to take you seriously if you post like a pre-teen. Show some respect for the people you wish to interact with by posting like an adult.

Here’s why I modded the post: telling someone their spelling isn’t very good once is a legitimate criticism. Repeating yourself - with a link to your own post, no less - and saying they “post like a pre-teen” and are being disrespectful is condescending and it’s junior modding.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/6 "2013-01-23T20:58:57Z")

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Seems like a good mod call to me.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/7 "2013-01-23T21:51:29Z")

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Ah ha. I understood “junior modding” to be fairly nebulous, but primarily attached to enforcing/reminding another poster of the Board’s rules. Though it’s come up for discussion before, there is no general punctuation/spelling/usage rule here, so a warning for being disrespectful and condescending makes sense–but it’s jarring to see it called “junior modding.”

It’s a fuzzy line, but it’s easy to see how it includes any flavour of telling another poster how to act (not just suggesting).

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**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/8 "2013-01-23T22:10:51Z")

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There is no such thing as white chocolate.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/9 "2013-01-23T22:12:40Z")

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> [@Rhythmdvl](#):
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> Ah ha. I understood “junior modding” to be fairly nebulous, but primarily attached to enforcing/reminding another poster of the Board’s rules.

That’s usually how the term is used. I could’ve also just said the post was rude or insulting, but I didn’t think it was worth splitting hairs over. **Critical1** isn’t new to this board and didn’t need **raindog** to tell him how things are done around here. In fact **Critical1** has been here several years longer than **raindog** has.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/10 "2013-01-23T23:20:50Z")

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Actually, it is a source of frustration for me that every mod admonition requires an ATMB thread pouting about the mod’s modding, and invariably runs 4 pages and I just want to scream _Grow up!_ (and I’m not saying for a moment that’s what the OP is)

With that in mind, I would not have started a thread on **Marley23** ’s admonition, whether I agreed or not. It was a rather benign admonition, and it was not an severe overreaction, imv.

But since **Trinopus** started the thread, (and I appreciate it, **Trinopus** ) and I’m cited in the post, I’ll weigh in with my 200 pesos. (and I have no intention to turn this into a 4 page pout)

I agree with **Trinopus.** We are a community here, and there are some conventions we’ve come to expect. And the community has, on more occasions than I can recall, chastised a poster for the garden variety incoherence that **critical1** displayed in the OP.

It seems downright silly that we need a mod to say [essentially], “hey, clean up your posts if you want us to take you seriously.”

In fact, the 2 posts that _immediately_ proceeded from the OP, called **critical1** out for the punctuation and formatting. **critical1** may be a long time member, but his name is entirely unfamiliar to me. And I’m not the only one that had an issue with the lack of proper formatting.

And I would ask that **Marley23** restrain the urge to point out how the nature of my post vis a vis posts 2 and 3 of that thread make my posts “junior modding” although we’re all saying the same things. Because, in the end, I don’t really mind or care.

I disagree with **Marley23**. It’s no big deal to me.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2013, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/11 "2013-01-23T23:22:56Z")

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ETA

I would add that I think **Marley23** and **tomndebb** are good GD moderators and imo are right way more than they’re wrong.

I just happen to think this time **Marley23** was wrong.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/12 "2013-01-24T00:03:34Z")

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> [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> There is no such thing as white chocolate.

This is the real issue here. I don’t know why the mods are ignoring it.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/13 "2013-01-24T00:04:24Z")

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> [@raindog](#):
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> I agree with **Trinopus.** We are a community here, and there are some conventions we’ve come to expect. And the community has, on more occasions than I can recall, chastised a poster for the garden variety incoherence that **critical1** displayed in the OP.
> 
> It seems downright silly that we need a mod to say [essentially], “hey, clean up your posts if you want us to take you seriously.”

We don’t usually moderate posts like this because it is indeed annoying if someone can’t be bothered to use halfway decent spelling or formatting. But saying it over and over doesn’t help matters. It’s rude and it’s a distraction from the thread topic, and if the poster didn’t listen the first time, repeating yourself probably won’t accomplish anything. If you had only told him once, I wouldn’t have modded your post. The same goes for your comments about “posting like a pre-teen” and the suggestion that he was being disrespectful to other posters. You took it a little too far in this instance.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/14 "2013-01-24T00:06:58Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> We don’t usually moderate posts like this because it is indeed annoying if someone can’t be bothered to use halfway decent spelling or formatting. But saying it over and over doesn’t help matters. It’s rude and it’s a distraction from the thread topic, and if the poster didn’t listen the first time, repeating yourself probably won’t accomplish anything. If you had only told him once, I wouldn’t have modded your post. The same goes for your comments about “posting like a pre-teen” and the suggestion that he was being disrespectful to other posters. You took it a little too far in this instance.

Ok.

I’m good with that.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/15 "2013-01-24T01:03:32Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> This is the real issue here. I don’t know why the mods are ignoring it.

They’ve circled the wagons into a white-chocolate covered pretzel.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/16 "2013-01-24T02:14:05Z")

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Ah, well, no big deal… I got something out of it: **Drunky Smurf** taught me how to link to specific posts! Thank you!

And the White Chocolate Insurgency will live on to fight another day! (Once we get over our internal split over peppermint flakes. Ah, strife!)

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/17 "2013-01-24T03:40:17Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> > [@Simple\_Linctus](#):
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> > > [@Trinopus](#):
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> > > So… Um… Meh. My opinion. I also like white chocolate.
> > 
> > There is no such thing as white chocolate.
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> This is the real issue here. I don’t know why the mods are ignoring it.

We do try to stay away from the really divisive issues, as we don’t want to incite massive board wars that will tear apart the very infrastructure of the Straight Dope. In this case, though, **Simple Linctus** is correct and we’ll be burning **Trinopus** at the stake in the morning. Please, no recording devices allowed.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/18 "2013-01-24T04:06:35Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> To link to a specific post click on the underlined number to the left of the little red triangle that you use to report posts. A window pops up with just that specific post and then copy and paste the URL.

> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Ah, well, no big deal… I got something out of it: **Drunky Smurf** taught me how to link to specific posts! Thank you!

For better effect, there’s an additional step you may want to try.

(a) As **Drunky Smurf** says, click on the underlined number at the upper right corner of the post. You get a new window showing _that post only._ Example (using a quasi-randomly chosen post from some other thread:  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15930252&postcount=4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15930252&postcount=4)

(b) Note that window shows the thread title, underlined, at the top right of the post. Here’s the extra step: Now _click on that._ You should now get an entire page of that thread, initially positioned in your browser window to that same post. Now, you can scroll up and down to see surrounding posts. This is therefore a better link to copy into your own post. Example:  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15930252#post15930252](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15930252#post15930252)  
This is what **Marley23** did in [Post #5 above](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15930070#post15930070) (and what I did right here).

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/19 "2013-01-24T06:31:50Z")

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[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:17, topic:648147”]

. . . we’ll be burning **Trinopus** at the stake in the morning. Please, no recording devices allowed.  
[/QUOTE]

Drat; my aunt would have loved to have had a few still photos for the family album!

> [@Senegoid](#):
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> For better effect, there’s an additional step you may want to try. . . .

Very cool, and thank you! I would make use of this knowledge, but, alas, I seem to be slated for incineration…

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/politely-disagree-with-a-modding/648147/20 "2013-01-24T06:35:20Z")

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So, what I should have done was…

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15923599#post15923599](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15923599#post15923599)

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