# Political Correctness in our universities

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 25, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108 "2018-04-25T15:58:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/301 "2018-05-05T21:09:11Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I don’t think we can. I think we can get people to think how things are different now with mass communication.

So what are you advocating that I, or other liberals, do differently?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/302 "2018-05-05T21:12:05Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Sure. They have a right to do business. They don’t have a right to someone else’s property though. I don’t think a cake baker could refuse them a swastika cake though. That’s discrimination!
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> I don’t think we can. I think we can get people to think how things are different now with mass communication.

But if they did refuse, the Nazis would be well within their right to boycott the bakery.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/303 "2018-05-05T22:01:49Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> So what are you advocating that I, or other liberals, do differently?

I probably shouldn’t have framed it as a liberal conservative thing. In my opinion, it’s more of a live and let live attitude with also a healthy dose of forgiveness. So what if some nutty professor has an obnoxious opinion? She shouldn’t get death threats.

But what to do? I don’t know. I just find it worrisome that stuff can haunt you forever and worldwide now.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/304 "2018-05-05T22:05:09Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Sure. They have a right to do business. They don’t have a right to someone else’s property though. I don’t think a cake baker could refuse them a swastika cake though. That’s discrimination!

No it isn’t. So long as the baker refuses to bake swastika cakes for anyone, they are within their rights.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/305 "2018-05-05T22:36:38Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I probably shouldn’t have framed it as a liberal conservative thing. In my opinion, it’s more of a live and let live attitude with also a healthy dose of forgiveness. So what if some nutty professor has an obnoxious opinion? She shouldn’t get death threats.
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> But what to do? I don’t know. I just find it worrisome that stuff can haunt you forever and worldwide now.

I certainly agree that people with nutty opinions shouldn’t get death threats. But I don’t think death threats have been a point of contention; rather, we’ve been disagreeing about boycotts and general criticism.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2018, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/306 "2018-05-05T22:59:16Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I certainly agree that people with nutty opinions shouldn’t get death threats. But I don’t think death threats have been a point of contention; rather, we’ve been disagreeing about boycotts and general criticism.

I never said don’t boycott. I said in the modern era the reach and speed of mob justice is vastly greater now so calls to boycott or whatever should be considered with that in mind. Calling the police is fine if certain conditions have been met. “Swatting” someone is never fine.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/307 "2018-05-06T00:40:30Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I never said don’t boycott. I said in the modern era the reach and speed of mob justice is vastly greater now so calls to boycott or whatever should be considered with that in mind. Calling the police is fine if certain conditions have been met. “Swatting” someone is never fine.

Okay, no disagreement here.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/308 "2018-05-06T00:56:53Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I never said don’t boycott. I said in the modern era the reach and speed of mob justice is vastly greater now so calls to boycott or whatever should be considered with that in mind.

“Mob justice” is a ridiculous term to use. Mob justice results in someone hanging from a lamppost, or at the very least in someone receiving lots of death/rape threats. An illegal act is requisite to the concept of “mob justice”.

When a lot of people decide to act legally in unison, a mob that ain’t.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/309 "2018-05-06T03:36:55Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Unless you have hard data - what percentage of those calling for this person to be fired are teen-agers, vs. how many people threatening protests and riots against conservatives who are teen-agers?
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Is threatening a protest some kind of crime or act of evil?

Only when Liberals do it?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/310 "2018-05-06T04:58:16Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> What is the relevance of this post?

I was directly responding to something you wrote. My questions were obviously in reference to your statement which I quoted. I asked for more detail on how you would apply your general principle in specific real-world situations.

Do you plan on answering the questions I asked?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/311 "2018-05-06T06:49:14Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> No, they don’t go to jail, because there is no imaginary LAW against “hate speech”. But students do suffer consequences, from suspension to expulsion.

> [@octopus](#):
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> You realize that no amount of cites are going to satisfy the constantly teleporting goalposts?

o\_o

> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Alright then, ANY body count for left wing goons? Because we’ve gone over this - one side of the spectrum is actively trying to kill people, while the other one, well…doesn’t.

> [@octopus](#):
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> Stalin, Mao, and other left wing goons say “hi!”

o\_o

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o\_0

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/312 "2018-05-06T07:33:38Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I was directly responding to something you wrote. My questions were obviously in reference to your statement which I quoted. I asked for more detail on how you would apply your general principle in specific real-world situations.
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> Do you plan on answering the questions I asked?

Specific forms of discrimination I’m fine with businesses doing? Aside from not being forced to provide custom content not many I can think of. Of course we can have a 10000000 post thread on what custom content means…

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-correctness-in-our-universities/813108/313 "2018-05-06T14:37:20Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> I never said don’t boycott. I said in the modern era the reach and speed of mob justice is vastly greater now so calls to boycott or whatever should be considered with that in mind.

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about [this boycott](http://cw33.com/2018/05/05/check-please-nra-calls-to-boycott-dallas-restaurant-over-receipt-message/)?

> [@octopus](#):
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> Specific forms of discrimination I’m fine with businesses doing? Aside from not being forced to provide custom content not many I can think of. Of course we can have a 10000000 post thread on what custom content means…

[Yeah, we already did.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=853696)

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