# Political fiction

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 4, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-fiction/471109 "2008-11-04T19:09:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-fiction/471109/21 "2008-11-06T03:55:45Z")

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_First Among Equals_ by Archer is an excellent account of the careers of four British politicians seeking to become Prime Minister.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-fiction/471109/22 "2008-11-06T05:58:11Z")

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Does it have to be realistic?

Ayn Rand’s ATLAS SHRUGGED

Taylor Caldwell’s CAPTAINS AND THE KINGS

her OOP- THE DEVIL’S ADVOCATES

Edward Mandell House’s PHILIP DRU: ADMINISTRATOR (Forget the Protocols of Zion, THIS was the Conspiracy’s agenda for the 20th century.)

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-fiction/471109/23 "2008-11-06T13:59:04Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Does it have to be realistic?

Preferably.

I’m not touching Rand with someone else’s 24.5 foot pole.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-fiction/471109/24 "2008-11-06T16:27:30Z")

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Aw, almost all of my favorites have already been mentioned.

\*Advise and Consent \* is a wonderful look at the clubby U.S. Senate of the late 1950s. A classic of its day, and a time capsule of sorts, as the Senate’s nothing like that now. Haven’t read any of the sequels, but I hear, as **Exapno Mapcase** said, that they suck.

_House of Cards_ is great, but the TV miniseries is actually far better than the book (and has a different ending, too, permitting the pretty good sequel _To Play the King_ and the so-so _The Final Cut_). In the series, Ian Richardson is just gripping as the amoral, murderously ambitious PM.

Christopher Buckley’s books are good fun. His _White House Mess_ is about a totally hapless, snakebit administration where everything goes hilariously wrong. My favorite line: “This press statement isn’t just a tissue of lies; it’s an industrial broadloom carpet of lies.”

_The Man_ by Irving Wallace is also pretty damn dated now, and is about the first (by accident) black President of the U.S. I read it in the mid-1970s and remember mostly liking it.

_First Among Equals_ by Jeffrey Archer is just a wonderful, wonderful book. Jeez, I’ve probably read it a half-dozen times. It’s a real page-turner about four British MPs and their rise to power, from the 1960s to the early 1990s… but only one can be PM. Interestingly, the British and American editions have a different man winning in the end (Archer found his friends on each side of the pond were rooting for different candidates).

Who wins in each, you ask? 😉

In the British edition, it’s Gould, the Labour candidate; in the American edition, it’s Kerslake, the Conservative.

_Joshua, Son of None_ by Nancy Freedman is a fascinating, heartbreaking novel about the cloning of a certain unnamed President assassinated in Dallas; the child is raised in conditions very similar to those of his progenitor and is groomed over decades for the Presidency.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-fiction/471109/25 "2008-11-07T05:29:32Z")

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thanks for reminding me of _Joshua_ - I wonder where my copy of it’s gone to? that was a fun read.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-fiction/471109/26 "2008-11-07T05:41:43Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> thanks for reminding me of _Joshua_ - I wonder where my copy of it’s gone to? that was a fun read.

It was. I see it came out in 1973, a decade after JFK’s death. There was a battered old copy in the beach house I used to go to, and I re-read it just about every summer. It’s kind of a benign version of the basic plot of _The Boys from Brazil._ 😉 Amazon has some used copies.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-fiction/471109/27 "2008-11-07T05:56:52Z")

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**Agent of Influence** by David Aaron was pretty spot-on. It was one of the last cold war thrillers written before the wall came down, a mildly satirical novel about a KGB colonel’s attempt to buy _The Washington Post_, from the POV of the Mergers and Acquisitions broker assigned to help him do it. It manages to went its way through every corridor of Washington power.

Also, **The Gay Place** by Billie Joe Brammer. It’s set in Austin, TX and is a pastiche of th environment that spawned LBJ.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-fiction/471109/28 "2008-11-07T06:06:18Z")

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> [@Scissorjack](#):
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> Former Clinton staffer Joe Klein’s _Primary Colors_, a thinly fictionalised account of the trials and tribulations of a Bill Clinton {Jack Stanton, in the novel} campaign staffer during Clinton’s first run at the primaries is a pretty much indispensable read for an insider account of how the politics you see on TV is actually put together behind the scenes.

Small correction: Klein was never a Clinton staffer. He covered the Clinton campaign for _Newsweek_, and those observations formed the source material for **Primary Colors**.

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