# Political nobody wins SC Democratic US Senate nomination in strangest political upset of the year. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 9, 2010, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518 "2010-06-09T07:48:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/41 "2010-06-10T09:51:06Z")
Here’s some video, because you just have to see this with your own eyes. [http://www.wistv.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=4857066&h1=Democratic%20party%20asks%20surprise%20Senate%20candidate%20to%20withdraw%2C%20Drew%20Stewart%20reports&vt1=v&at1=Political&d1=112167&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&rnd=36830072](http://www.wistv.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=4857066&h1=Democratic%20party%20asks%20surprise%20Senate%20candidate%20to%20withdraw%2C%20Drew%20Stewart%20reports&vt1=v&at1=Political&d1=112167&LaunchPageAdTag=News&activePane=info&rnd=36830072) He’ll probably be edged out, if not though he says he looks forward to having a televised debate with Demint, and that is something I think we all need to see. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/42 "2010-06-10T10:59:28Z")
Has the result been compared with exit polls as a sanity check? Florida’s famous “butterfly ballot” was a real problem. Machine fraud and malfunction are real problems; could something like that be at work here? ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/43 "2010-06-10T12:22:17Z")
> [@CyclopticXander](#): > > [http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/south-carolina-dems-call-on-greene-to-drop-out-of-senate-race.php](http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/south-carolina-dems-call-on-greene-to-drop-out-of-senate-race.php) > > And even crazier, the party is now asking him to step down. Just bizarre. I’m sure that Rahm can find a little something for him to do. Don’t they have some positions to fill since Sestak and the Colorado guy both turned them down. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/44 "2010-06-10T12:32:34Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > I’m sure that Rahm can find a little something for him to do. Don’t they have some positions to fill since Sestak and the Colorado guy both turned them down. [Rob Schneider] Makin’ the copies… [/Rob Schneider] ---
**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/45 "2010-06-10T13:53:54Z")
> **[Mother Vows Revenge on Alvin Greene for Showing Porn to Her Daughter](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2010/06/alvin-greene-felony-charge-camille-mccoy/)** > > The South Carolina Senate candidate has a felony charge. The alleged victim's mom wants to bring him down. The mother of the victim on a crusade to derail his candidacy. Very interesting article. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/46 "2010-06-10T13:59:08Z")
I thought it was traditional for the mods to explain that they merged threads when they merge threads. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/47 "2010-06-10T14:00:39Z")
I merged **Jormungandr** ’s thread into this one, which started yesterday. EDIT: Hold your horses, **Really Not All That Bright**. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/48 "2010-06-10T14:31:06Z")
In b4 explanation! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/49 "2010-06-10T15:03:13Z")
What happened to tolerance? What horrors did those folks endure that made them so demented as to have relations with an animal? I suspect someone in the GOP realized the way the ballots would be printed, found a rube, gave him 10k, and told him to go be the everyman candidate. Nice protection against incumbent backlash. ETA: Besides, the guy is already learning the world of politics! > [@](#): > > “The people have spoken. We need to be pro-South Carolina, not anti-Greene.” -Alvin Greene ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/50 "2010-06-10T16:43:31Z")
Even if the guy was a plant or rube of the South Carolina Republicans–apparently a _hundred thousand people_ voted for him, an _eighteen-point_ margin.\* I also don’t buy that such a thing happens only by random or alphabetic effect. There had to have been a substantial number of people voting _against_ the other guy, if only on the basis that they sort of recognized his name as being that of a politician; Rawl’s own campaigning might have hurt him! This was literally a vote for nobody. Well, either that, or a vote for [Love and Happiness](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cwYpefWD3Y). 🆒 Does anyone have a link for actual/original reporting on what has been repeated (verbatim, without names) in several recent articles, that > [@](#): > > Republican place markers in Palmetto State Democratic primaries are campaign legend. > > In the early ‘90s, a Republican strategist was prosecuted and forced to pay a fine when he was found to have coaxed an unemployed black fisherman into running in a primary race to increase white turnout at the polls in a Lowcountry congressional race. The political operative paid the man’s filing fee. - We think; is there any physical record of votes in SC? ---
**Author:** ![CyclopticXander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@CyclopticXander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CyclopticXander)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/51 "2010-06-10T21:28:10Z")
Alright here’s the inevitable train wreck [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFN7ZkjgkA) Just…Holy Cow. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/52 "2010-06-11T00:19:36Z")
I guess it’s just piling on at this point but this interview was so painfully bad I couldn’t help but laugh. [http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/eyeon2010/2010/06/mystery-candidate-says-no-one.html](http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/eyeon2010/2010/06/mystery-candidate-says-no-one.html) ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/53 "2010-06-11T01:22:31Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > I dunno, everyones always grumbling that we could pull random people off the street and they’d be better then our current crop of politicians, now we have. > > I kinda hope someone helps Mr Greene make a go of it. He won’t win unless DeMint gets caught giving blow-jobs in the mens room… That was what the Rawl people were thinkin three days ago. Will his guy be ahead of DeMint on the ballot? We could be looking at the next Senator from SC! :eek: It will be interesting to find out how the unemployeed guy got the $10000 to get on the ballot in the first place. i wonder if he will turn out to have had “help” with this win. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/54 "2010-06-11T02:52:16Z")
Just watched Olberman interview Mr. Greene. Weird, weird, weird interview. The guy could not seem more unsure of himself. Keith was uncharacteristically restrained and lobbed nothing but softball questions at him. I’m not ready to call him a plant but something sure seems off with this guy. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/55 "2010-06-11T04:09:40Z")
> [@CyclopticXander](#): > > Alright here’s the inevitable train wreck > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFN7ZkjgkA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFN7ZkjgkA) > > Just…Holy Cow. Wow :eek:. That was painful. It reminds of that Miss South Carolina contestant a few years back who rambled on about maps and “U.S. Americans.” It’s almost like listening to Rain Man. The Democratic establishment there needs to put as much distance as possible between themselves and this guy. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/56 "2010-06-11T07:47:07Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > EDIT: Hold your horses, **Really Not All That Bright**. 😉 I am not sure it is wise to be using that metaphor in this thread. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/57 "2010-06-11T11:51:34Z")
What a bunch of racist idiots they got there in South Carolina. [Here’s a follow up on this in a local paper.](http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/jun/10/strange-twist-in-senate-race/) Greene didn’t file financial disclosures because he didn’t think he needed to since he spent less than $5000 on his campaign, being too stupid to realize that the filing fee alone is more than twice that. But the bit that got me is from a Democratic state senator who said, and I quote, _“Vic Rawl had money, but he didn’t have enough. He wasn’t able to identify himself with black voters,” Ford said. “No white folks have an ‘e’ on the end of Green. The blacks after they left the plantation couldn’t spell, and they threw an ‘e’ on the end.”_ And then he fucked a zebra. ---
**Author:** ![OneChance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/74df32/32.png) [@OneChance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneChance)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/58 "2010-06-11T12:17:41Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > It will be interesting to find out how the unemployeed guy got the $10000 to get on the ballot in the first place. Maybe by saving it up when he had a job? Is that really hard for people to understand? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/59 "2010-06-11T12:18:43Z")
I want to add, just in case anyone thought different, that just because he’s black doesn’t mean he can’t be a stupid racist. A real life Uncle Ruckus. He probably doesn’t have sex with zebras, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2010, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518/60 "2010-06-11T12:54:52Z")
> [@OneChance](#): > > Maybe by saving it up when he had a job? Is that really hard for people to understand? Then he wouldn’t have qualified for the public defender’s office. Something’s rotten in Denmark. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/political-nobody-wins-sc-democratic-us-senate-nomination-in-strangest-political-upset-of-the-year/542518.md?page=4)